to everyone....join me in the garden for a new conversation......
Hi Alice...
Hmmmm...don't quite understand your comment. Who's offended?
Talk to you in the SECRET GARDEN!
thanks for mainting this site. hope its fun and not just work.
That looks so cool on your astro!!
Way to advertise!!
Nina...thanks for the names on the kids page. I have a beautiful picture of Mariko, Athena and Rose and Sharon (Iabesha). Don't know if I should post it without their permission.
Oh sorry. Had a wonderful Thanksgiving meal. Turkey was perfect but the sweetpotatoes where the best.
just think, if we were at sr now, we'd probably have the same relationship to all the current election wierdness as we did to watergate back then (what's watergate?). but now that we're back in the "real" world, we actually feel this stuff has meaning, which it does on one level, but on a larger scale.......?
i was visiting friends the other day. their teenager had a bumper sticker tacked to his wall that said "friends don't let friends vote republican".
Christmastime in the Courtyard
Just be a mindless proselytizer and you're groovy. He was the first hippie, lived simply, said do good spiritual works, spoke the truth,etc. This venue is too constricted to get very far into it but simply put, He made it clear that you didn't need to know Him or even say good things about Him as long as you respected God and did well by your fellow humans.
Look at the parable of the sheep and the goats for verification of above statement. I could find it if I had to. I think a person is better off knowing Him, but that clearly is not a prerequisite for eternal life.
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C.S. Lewis...................Dec 8, 2000, 13:52 (EST)
See John 3:16, John 15:5.
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Thomas Merton...................Dec 8, 2000, 14:01 (EST)
No natural exercise can bring you into vital contact with Him. Unless He utters Himself in you, speaks His own name in the center of your soul, you will no more know Him than a stone knows the ground upon which it rests in its inertia.
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jim...................Dec 8, 2000, 16:40 (EST)
....for christ sake..lets stop this dribble...it all happened so long ago, and no cds were made, the language was different, and people were not the suffisticated
sr type, intelligent and enlightened...just plain superstitious pions and ignorant roman statesmen and their following .....i'll bet there was no toilet paper maybe
paperus in large rolls and that was for the hierarchy......i'm at a loss for the right way to keep subdoing this prostelizing...the only thing for me is to ignore
it, amen
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Joel...................Dec 8, 2000, 19:05 (EST)
Jim,
how cum you cud say waddever u wanna but u don likit wen udders say der peece? I thot dis wuz a free kuntree. whyzzit so bodersum to ya fo foks to say sumpin bout Geezus. it makes fo inuh restin convusashun dunnit?
yer (uhcordon to stan) un-intuhlekshal frend.
jol :-)
pee es
i didna no dat tings witch happund uhlong tym uhgo wazn't portant no mo. weardja git dat idee frum?
pee pee es
ah respekja jim an ah aint trina rile u up nun. Iz jez spekkin my mind an hart. by da way i ownlee rote de furst ting bout the sno at sr on crismus in sevundee one. don blam me fo da rest. sommun els ben sayin dat stuff. Iz you smilin yet, ah shur hopeso.
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Trudy...................Dec 8, 2000, 22:39 (EST)
Great snow picture, Teddy! Where have I seen that snow before?
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Sherlock Holmes...................Dec 9, 2000, 01:05 (EST)
Now I deduce that Sunnyridgers are "intelligent and enlightened" and proselitizers are "mindless." My turn to "Oy vay!"
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oy vay!...................Dec 9, 2000, 02:37 (EST)
oy vay!
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OH SAY...................Dec 9, 2000, 08:35 (EST)
iz knot free con--tree! sum1 edits out right-ings he dizlikes!
JUST like Sun-E-ridge.......
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jim...................Dec 9, 2000, 13:16 (EST)
...oh boy......oy vay.....love freedom....it is not a matter of dislike.....or like.....don't fence me in.....sr people ? all kinds.....we'll get our rewards...??.......
who needs rewards...i got gold stars in school.....what happened long long time ago is what we are becomed......let it be, as long as you don't do war, hurt,
kill......the sin and shame of the world is mine....sorry to knock anyone......i grow old....i shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled .......
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SIG...................Dec 9, 2000, 13:51 (EST)
JAF--You da BOMB! Merry Life!
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Teddy...................Dec 10, 2000, 13:18 (EST)
Sweet Christmas card, jaf.
I stare at the very same things in bewilderment.
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stan...................Dec 11, 2000, 00:54 (EST)
Did I fal into a trap?
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Teddy...................Dec 11, 2000, 08:38 (EST)
LIVE FROM NEW YORK..
FAITH PILGER'S REVIEW OF STANYA KHAN
(Stan...you have a female counterpart?)
Michelle...once again, I feel love welling up in me for your honesty and participation. But I hesitate to use that word
Alice...Me too Me too...major computer problems. Tis the season for major internal housecleaning I guess.
Let me know if this works, especially if you have a MAC.
did you see the snow in the courtyard (above)? Did we ever have a white Christmas as SR? 1lucy, you are so much fun to read. Poet and philosopher and frank too. Strawberry fields forever.
If Sunnyridge reappeared...scary
Bo Derick PS Sorry, this should be on the Occult page...Ahhhh, not really sorry. hope everyone's holidays were as good as mine. had christmas dinner with elizabeth and saul, and saw rita's sister marie at another friend's...the weather here has been beautiful and sunny, warmish days and really crisp nights...lots of stars at night, and the smell of wood fires. winter around here is usually almost as wet as oregon.
Hiding in religion? Mmmmmmmmm. Depends on what is really reality. Nature, more honesty in relationships, and psychadelic drugs helped make Sunnyridge quite real...but there still tons of illusion and lots of karma unresolved. Let the growth continue. Let the revelations come. Let love not be lost however. Sunnyridge is not the past. All is here and now. Geeeez, back to the philosophy again.
Was looking at your website. Really coming along...best of all is seeing your works. Do you think Erin actually posted the latest message on ERIN ? Even if I agreed exactly with what you're saying I'd be embarrased to call myself a Christian, I'd at least have to go through a lot of disclaimers, explanations and excuses. Christians, as a whole are the most intolerant, close-minded, (forgive me for saying this and don't take it personally) shit-for-brains people in our population. They elected the theif because they don't believe a damn thing they say they believe in. Cut taxes while people are living on the street, while 45 million Americans are without health care, etc., etc., etc., Is that Christian?
In fact I am a believer, but I've learned that the best way to advance His true message is to live it and keep your mouth shut unless asked and cut all the bullshit about sinning and eternal damnation for everybody who doesn't conform to the backward anti-intellectual anti-thinking regressive traits of so called "Christians"
Forgive me once again for being so harsh, (call it the email effect) but you're talking to real people here who have feelings, know love and don't need to be lectured like wayward children. Joel, I look with a lot of fondness at the many hours we spent discussing the world hovering over the cookstove, et al. I ask you now to cut the crap and stop lecturing us.
My appolgies. I meant it affectionately. We are all emotional wrecks. Just read all these postings! We all need healing and tranformation. you already got me once for using the word love...and I appreciate your slap in the face....I know the facade I present to the world is totally devoid of love...but it IS in there. We all are full of it (pun intended).
Stan..chill. You may be right, but you may be wrong. Let it be. So much for my collection of Beatle songs.
jim...as usual, you have me on the floor laughing.
Pink? not sure who that is...but, seriously, that is a touching and honest poem.
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michelle...................Dec 15, 2000, 19:57 (EST)
it is cool to be appreciated, teddy.
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Leah...................Dec 16, 2000, 00:11 (EST)
Hi guys, Teddy great picture of snow. JAF wonderful cartoon. Stan, I got a card from Alexis but it got inadvertently lost along with her email adress. Any way to get that from you? (I'm not sure if it's a good idea to post that type of stuff here...maybe in the Secret Garden)
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Teddy...................Dec 19, 2000, 09:57 (EST)
SEASON'S GREETINGS FROM TED AND ELLEN SUE
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sinta...................Dec 19, 2000, 12:14 (EST)
...it worked on mac...i had to load music separatly and superimpose the medley on the photo of both of you in the snow....lovely........
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jim...................Dec 19, 2000, 18:48 (EST)
...the snow accumulation....great
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Gloria...................Dec 25, 2000, 06:13 (EST)
On the first Christmas, we were sent the perfect gift, wrapped and laid in a manger. It was given in love, was very costly, and was just what we needed. It fits all sizes, is portable, comes with its own power supply, never needs upgrading, and never wears out--in fact, it keeps the recipient from wearing out. We can fail to unwrap it, put it in the closet or attic, exchange it for some other gift, or, worst of all, refuse it. Can you accept it?
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jesus...................Dec 26, 2000, 05:28 (EST)
oy vey!!
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jim...................Dec 26, 2000, 16:25 (EST)
..............sorry i can't accept, i don't like the rapping.....
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Nina ...................Dec 27, 2000, 00:14 (EST)
Instead of arguing over religion which seems to me to be rather fruitless, let's talk about memories of this holiday season at SR and perhaps take the discussion to the regular chat page where I'm also posting this message.
I no longer celebrate Chirstmas, instead we had an amazing Chanukah party on Christmas eve with 15 pounds of potatoes worth of latkes. They were reported to be the best latkes anyone had ever tasted (thank you Mom and Babi for the recipe). We lit about 10 menorahs and ate, played music and danced the night away. The best X-mas eve ever!
I do remember making decorations...popcorn strings, paper chains, snowflakes and glitter covered stockings at SR. The anticipation of X-mas was huge. The kids all lying out in the lodge in our sleeping bags playing "1,2.3 switch" and trying to stay up until the stockings were filled. We got up at the crack of dawn one year and went carolling around to all the houses to wake people up so we could open our presents.....
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Teddy...................Dec 27, 2000, 08:26 (EST)
Nina I remember that! Especially the pop corn. Also remember Latkes from my one year in college. Had a roomate who took me to Temple for the holiday celebration. I loved the latkes but they did not love me...
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jim...................Dec 27, 2000, 11:42 (EST)
.....sorry about the bull and drivel....just returned from the valley, had a great three day holiday in eugene with all my children, grandchildren and eugene friends......
the strung pop corn
i remember the rest of the sr x mas i have forgotten... this message is getting screwed up....anyways all have a happy new year
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Teddy...................Dec 27, 2000, 22:58 (EST)
Isn't if fun getting old?
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jim...................Dec 28, 2000, 14:34 (EST)
hello the coast is clear here in brookings....amazing scenery the rocks the ocean and warm sunshine....heading to the red woods forest...this is a rare sunny opportunity to see the trees.....
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Teddy...................Dec 28, 2000, 23:38 (EST)
Sounds beautiful jim.
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Hypnos...................Dec 30, 2000, 01:03 (EST)
(yawn)
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Toucan Sam...................Dec 30, 2000, 01:13 (EST)
One person's fruitless is another person's Fruit Loops....
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Father Time...................Dec 31, 2000, 04:05 (EST)
Hippy Jew Yeah.
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jim...................Dec 31, 2000, 13:11 (EST)
.....happy new year
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SIG...................Dec 31, 2000, 16:33 (EST)
Just want to say thanks, Webmeister, for putting so much hard work into making this site real. A happy, healthy, joyous and peaceful New Year to you and yours.
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SIG...................Dec 31, 2000, 16:43 (EST)
Also, while I'm on thanks, and as the calendar flips again---I thank God for forgiving me for so much and for blessing me so richly. He has given me an incredibly beautiful place to live--full access to a clay studio--pastels to draw with--an inexpensive camera that takes great photos--a wide circle of faithful, fun, funny, quirky, and diverse friends--no more fear of death--the means to live without a "regular" job--a whole house with two full apartments at amazingly low rent--a great church to worship with--joy in my heart--and so much more. It is His great joy to take the worst of sinners and bless them as they come to Him. A heartfelt "Thank You."
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carmen...................Jan 1, 2001, 12:44 (EST)
Happy new year ......and preachers, prostelizers or whatever you are, make your own chat page.......or use the philosophy
page...some of the sr out house chatters are getting tired of drivellinging....
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jim...................Jan 1, 2001, 12:52 (EST)
...good for you stew......i too am thankful
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Father Time...................Jan 1, 2001, 15:11 (EST)
Some of us are always getting tired.....
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Timely Father...................Jan 1, 2001, 18:47 (EST)
What are we trying to prove ?
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jim...................Jan 1, 2001, 19:01 (EST)
...cartoon
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Teddy...................Jan 1, 2001, 23:53 (EST)
Wow, you hit the nail on the head (or foot) there, jim. My stomach churns to think of that kind of subservience. But...maybe I've never loved that much...
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Bob Dylan...................Jan 2, 2001, 16:24 (EST)
You gotta serve SOMEBODY.......
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Alice A. Bailey...................Jan 2, 2001, 18:44 (EST)
----two beers please.....
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Webster...................Jan 3, 2001, 01:05 (EST)
For some of Alice A. Bailey's anti-semitic writings, try
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Webster...................Jan 3, 2001, 01:07 (EST)
.....www.pinenet.com/~rooster/bailey.html
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Teddy...................Jan 3, 2001, 23:42 (EST)
Whoa, that's heavy, Webster.
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jim...................Jan 4, 2001, 19:09 (EST)
...how's everyone doing....michelle where are you ?.......peter, how's the bay area ? have you traveled lately ? any new pics ted ? alice what's up, micheal m.
any new stories from the past ? stan how's the chinese connection ? and everyone else any new reaction to the passing revelations ? the last cartoon i published in the voiceaugust 1974
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stan...................Jan 4, 2001, 19:32 (EST)
Chinese connection long gone. Great while it lasted, all is transitory. Book almost ready. I know I've been saying that for months but this time its true. Will drop by the coast this spring.
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llucy...................Jan 5, 2001, 09:24 (EST)
you go stan!
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llucy...................Jan 5, 2001, 09:31 (EST)
well jim it's snowless and rainless and almost as cold(but no lake effect) as it should be over here in central Ozland...and the data keeps GISing and the keyboard's got coffee stains and random venemous anti-semantic blows to public babbling MAY dismay the unwary(striking them mum's the word) and the reindeer ARE radioactive and so it goes..ISN'T IT INTERESTING?
somes days black humour suffices and on others random serendiptous openings in the fog stike damascus glories in the content unconcous child within/child without
YES! stawberry fields forever are silver linings to the hexagram clouds...tallyhoho!take three tabtees and amuse me in the morning...
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The Planner...................Jan 5, 2001, 15:04 (EST)
Not random....
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QPerson...................Jan 5, 2001, 18:49 (EST)
Wonder what it would be like if Sunnyridge magically reappeared, and we all went back to live there now?
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ashamed of name...................Jan 5, 2001, 19:32 (EST)
The old age home will be realized.
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jim...................Jan 5, 2001, 19:42 (EST)
......who the hell are these strange nameless people ?
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Tao...................Jan 5, 2001, 20:39 (EST)
that which can be named is not the nameless
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Teddy...................Jan 6, 2001, 00:26 (EST)
jim...regarding new pics, Rita has been trying to send a bunch from the reunion. Will post 'em this week if I can.
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QPerson...................Jan 6, 2001, 01:43 (EST)
Jim--If "we are one," what's the difference?
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tooken tabtees alright?...................Jan 6, 2001, 06:57 (EST)
we have all been there be four
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surfitup...................Jan 6, 2001, 07:05 (EST)
this is what you could be doing instead of worrying the bone LOVE
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surfitup...................Jan 6, 2001, 07:10 (EST)
try again that was one letter off
unconditional love
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surfitup...................Jan 6, 2001, 07:13 (EST)
well AOL won't let YOU love from here but should you wan't to go to www.thehungersite.com
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jim...................Jan 6, 2001, 12:06 (EST)
...no difference...except you
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SIG...................Jan 6, 2001, 13:59 (EST)
Here's a game that came to mind; play if you like. It's "Famous People I Have Met." This should include only those you had some conversation with, however slight. Could be fun to see how diverse our experiences are. I'll start: Robert DeNiro....
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ta fille...................Jan 7, 2001, 01:37 (EST)
hi dad. i'll be home tomorrow. all is swell. the blind sam tastes great! and the ridge is very sunny. clem says hi.
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ma fille...................Jan 7, 2001, 16:30 (EST)
.....it was there we were.....the scenery remains.....and deep connections.......
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Teddy...................Jan 7, 2001, 19:22 (EST)
FAMOUS PEOPLE I HAVE MET
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Leah...................Jan 8, 2001, 00:22 (EST)
"To me, one of the critical pieces of forgiveness has to do with the absorbtion of pain," says Jim Donahue, president of Berkeley's Graduate Theological Union and a man who has spent his professional and spiritual life studying religion and social ethics. "You'll have to absorb some of the pain of the victim, and you live in the reality of the victim's pain, and that will always be part of your life. It's not 'I'm remorseful because I want to be let off from this [guilt].' There always has to be this kind of absorbtion of pain into oneself, and that is the burden that you live with. Even if society says, 'Okay, you're forgiven,' you will always have to live with the internalized sense that you've hurt someone...(speaking of the subject of the article) But has he taken responsibility for the particular harm he's done, or merely the generic harm? You need to put a face, an action to this forgiveness. You can't live in a generalized, abstract sense. We don't live in a generic world. Being forgiven has a lot to do with taking responsibility in a particular sense."
This paragraph comes from an article in the East Bay Express about a convicted gang member who is on death row and was recently nominated for the nobel peace prize for his books for children discouraging violence.
The sentiments in the quote struck me as an eloquent summing up of my feelings about Stewart.
I know the discussion has moved on to other topics but frankly this is what I think about and feel when I see SIG in the chat room.
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Teddy...................Jan 8, 2001, 00:50 (EST)
Leah, I believe we have to accept the absolute thoroughness of the law of cause and effect. Call it Karma or call it "taking up your cross", we will reap what we sow. However, I am kinda thankful that the universe is run by love foremost and justice second. Can't explain it, but I know we don't have to live in hell, screaming and fighting all the way.
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SIG...................Jan 8, 2001, 01:38 (EST)
FAMOUS PEOPLE I HAVE MET: David Berkowitz (Son of Sam)
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Ultimately, when we sin, we sin against God alone (see Psalm 51). Our sins have consequences in our society, and certainly we must pay the price. But when God forgives us (as a result of true repentance), we are truly forgiven. Conditional human love can't understand this; only God's love is great enough to heal us.
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alice...................Jan 8, 2001, 04:24 (EST)
hello everyone...my computer's back up and running. have been checking in now and then on a friend's computer, but not able to write, which may be a good thing, considering the substance of the chat over the past weeks...i might have said things i'd regret afterwards...if this were the real outhouse and not a virtual one, i'd probably have just taken a walk into the woods instead, or used the one seater.
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jim...................Jan 8, 2001, 12:37 (EST)
...you guys are all over the place with jesus, stay on the holy philosophy page...it's confusing to jump from one page to the other....famous people i met, jesus
but he didn't speak to me....
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Teddy...................Jan 8, 2001, 12:41 (EST)
Welcome back, Alice. Ah, the smell of a fire. I miss not having the fireplace in our new apartment. Yes, the chat has taken on very serious tones and I for one am going to give up and be my old stupid self again. To hell with being a show off and a know it all. I'll stick to hypertext protocol and using the one-seater too.
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Teddy...................Jan 8, 2001, 12:43 (EST)
Hey jim...
we're on at the same time. What's your AOL messager screename again?
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jim...................Jan 8, 2001, 12:46 (EST)
.....glad your on line again alice.....michelle spent her holidays near the claim....daniel-madrone and wensdae are on the coast chez moi with their cute babies...
wasn't marlon brando visiting the claim once ? playing bongos with larry et all...my memory is not that good but a lot of famous people were around...
allen weis....allan jeffries, priscilla's ex.....officer metcaff...and pf course me...leah how is your art coming along...are you interested in having a page with your art
on the sr page or the web ?
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jim...................Jan 8, 2001, 12:47 (EST)
...ten points for you ted......
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jim...................Jan 8, 2001, 12:52 (EST)
sorry ted i missed you...jaf1930 is my name...i'm not on...got to go to town in a few minutes.....are you on holiday ?
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michelle...................Jan 8, 2001, 19:22 (EST)
i know many infamous people. ff f ff f ame!
what's in a name? tony bennett (beneditto?) gave me a kiss on the cheek when i was seventeen. i'm back in eugene. . .
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Leah...................Jan 9, 2001, 00:13 (EST)
jim, the art is always coming along! Yeah, I haven't gotten a web page together as of yet. I s'pose it would be a good thing. Are you offering help/suggestions?
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jim...................Jan 9, 2001, 12:14 (EST)
leah, yes just ask questions.........a page for the sr web site.....with pictures and a blurb about you and what you are doing.....the one ted designed started me
experimenting to do it on my own....not hard to do, if it's kept simple...like the one i did for myself......anyways my email address >jaf@pacificonline.net<
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peter...................Jan 9, 2001, 20:03 (EST)
SIG, your response, if such it was, to Leah's reflections on foregiveness etc. is typically impersonal. I am uncomfortable with that. Thus I ask you respond more personally to some of the questions that have been raised either directly or implicitly concerning your behavior at SR. Perhaps you will prefer to address these issues in the Secret Garden or even by private communication of one sort or another with whomever inquires. Think it over then answer.
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llucy...................Jan 13, 2001, 08:20 (EST)
speechless speechless speechless...so unresolved issues are defined by the unafraid..and the chickens crossed the road to get to their email..and hiding yer head in theology doesn't ostrichate you from the returning reality of memory and past action..
the best part of sunnyridge(other than the sweet bliss of: mountain mists over the forest, the singing winds, and solar skies, whitetipped creek washing clean eternity's fortune in rock, thought-obliterating rains, chorus of estactic birds and myriad windchimes)
was the music..am trying to peice together setlist
went down to nazareth..
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Teddy...................Jan 13, 2001, 11:01 (EST)
Yeah, sure wish we had some recorded music of the after dinner jams we had at Sunnyridge. If Tom Miley connected with this site, we might have the possibility. And of course, larry could send a little drum sound if he was so inclined
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Teddy...................Jan 13, 2001, 11:59 (EST)
For llucy...
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SIG...................Jan 14, 2001, 04:35 (EST)
After Adam and Eve sinned, they hid from God--who came looking for them, in love....
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Pink...................Jan 14, 2001, 04:40 (EST)
Outside the Wall:
All alone, or in two's,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.
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llucy...................Jan 14, 2001, 09:58 (EST)
went looking
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jim...................Jan 14, 2001, 18:16 (EST)
...got neither "cripple creek" nor "went looking"......got quick time......mac chapter 1-14
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llucy...................Jan 15, 2001, 09:30 (EST)
so ahhh sorry jim..forgot 'bout the problem with macs...most audio files now come in REAL AUDIO.. doesn't require much mgs..easy to download, don't know if they are compatible with mac tho..
setlist so far..(if my memory serves me well)
Bob Dylan: like a rolling stone, positivly 4th street, lay lady lay
The Doors: people are strange, la woman
The Band: the weight, up on cripple creek
J.D. Wade: sleeping bag
Art & Garf: sounds of silence
The Dead: st. stephen
so long ago still streching the old brain..to remember
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Nina...................Jan 16, 2001, 00:54 (EST)
"It is not the seeking after G-d that divides but the claim to have found G-d and to have discovered the only proper way of obeying G-d and communing with G-d." Mordecai M. Kaplan
With this in mind, I would appreciate it if visitors to the list would share their ideas but not try to convince me I must become a Jesus worshiper in order to find G-d. Please stop!
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Teddy...................Jan 16, 2001, 09:57 (EST)
jim
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jim...................Jan 16, 2001, 12:00 (EST)
.......thank you pierre, glad you liked the work.......nina, right on...you said it simply and concisely......
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alice...................Jan 16, 2001, 21:41 (EST)
nina - right on! from me too.
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michelle...................Jan 17, 2001, 13:56 (EST)
nina, you're the bomb.
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mm.....uh yeh...................Jan 18, 2001, 03:05 (EST)
Ninaaaa. Wanna light that one off again.......
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Ashamed...................Jan 18, 2001, 12:15 (EST)
What was dat ?
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Joel ...................Jan 18, 2001, 12:52 (EST)
It saddens me to think that in trying to share Jesus with you I have somehow angered or turned you off to Him. I have tried to tell you about the lover of my soul, the friend of sinners and the one who has brought deep peace and joy into my life. I say this in all sincerity, please forgive me for not having respresented him better than I have, for I am convinced that if you were to see him as he really is you would not run away from him but straight into his arms of love.
Perhaps this is not the best venue for discussing such things. I hope though that something I have said may have stirred within you a desire to know the truth about who this Jesus is. I believe you owe it to yourself to at least check it out. If so may I suggest again that you read the gospels for yourself in a modern translation Somewhere in the bible God says that "you will find me when you search for me with all your heart". So keep searching Sunnyridge and may God bless your quest.
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Weary...................Jan 18, 2001, 16:18 (EST)
Joel read Nina 1-16
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Peter...................Jan 18, 2001, 16:38 (EST)
NINA, said it better than the old block...
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michelle...................Jan 18, 2001, 22:25 (EST)
stop.
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Teddy...................Jan 19, 2001, 09:48 (EST)
Wow, I really love all you guys. Joel, you are very sincere and in my interpretative ability, I know exactly what you are experiencing...only I would say that Jesus is not the only name for that aspect of the divine that loves and blesses and points the way. I would call it consciousness, as opposed to our mind. When all is said and done, we are all searching and dealing with things on the inner plane. Ok..stop.
Nina, you are an outspoken presence on this site...I love you and look foreward to your scary revelations and challenges. You realize, of course, how much like your mom you are?
Michelle, my belle...an equally honest, frank, but emotional wreck...We all love you. Melnik yells "right-on" at all your postings.
Oh jim or jaf or Mr.Eccentric...faithful follower of the chat page, you are so needed as a balance and appreciated as a 17 year old in an old body.
Peter,Stan,Stewart,1lucy,Alice,everyone...I am so happy we can all meet up here and continue our karmic endeavors.
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Teddy...................Jan 19, 2001, 09:52 (EST)
Oh I almost forgot why I came here...LOL
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jim ?...................Jan 19, 2001, 12:54 (EST)
.......old body ?
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Teddy...................Jan 19, 2001, 23:13 (EST)
Nina...I am laughing outloud...just read your recipe for Sunnyridge Ice Cream on the Recipes page.
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Pink...................Jan 20, 2001, 00:44 (EST)
Coming Back To Life:
Where were you when I was burned and broken/
While the days slipped by from my window watching/
Where were you when I was hurt and I was helpless/
Because the things you say and the things you do surround me/
While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words/
Dying to believe in what you heard/
I was staring straight into the shining sun/
Lost in thought and lost in time/
While the seeds of life and the seeds of change were planted/
Outside the rain fell dark and slow/
While I pondered on this dangerous but irresistible pastime/
I took a heavenly ride through our silence/
I knew the moment had arrived/
For killing the past and coming back to life/
I took a heavenly ride through our silence/
I knew the waiting had begun/
And headed straight . . . into the shining sun
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jim...................Jan 20, 2001, 10:28 (EST)
...wear sun block, especialy if your pink already....
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Stan...................Jan 20, 2001, 15:00 (EST)
Joel, I believe we at SR exemplified the true Jesus way more than almost any Christians I know (nothing personal). Just look at the Cristian Coalition, a bunch of right wing wackos who watched while Bush stole the election and then talked about how he was going to bring integrity to the White House.
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michelle...................Jan 21, 2001, 01:41 (EST)
teddy, i'm an "emotional wreck."????? heavy words, man. i'm not an emotional wreck, for the record. i am however, almost completely made of emotions. i am an emotional being. i am not a wreck. words can hold power. be careful. love, michelle
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O'Reilly...................Jan 21, 2001, 03:36 (EST)
Stan--Oh, ree-hee-hee-ly?
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Teddy...................Jan 21, 2001, 11:15 (EST)
Oh Michelle...
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Pink...................Jan 21, 2001, 12:38 (EST)
Floyd
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Stan...................Jan 21, 2001, 13:06 (EST)
Ted, It's the email factor... no heat or bad vibes... no need to chill, just reality and feelings. And what's the big deal about using the word love?
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Nina...................Jan 21, 2001, 22:25 (EST)
ted - oh puh-leeeez! i like to think i'm a little more radical than my mom....
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jim from pa....................Jan 22, 2001, 00:02 (EST)
Hey! does this really work? It's pretty interesting and looks like you all had fun.Was there a point when people got greedy or lazy, or some people ended up with all the work of running things? If so, could you kick people out? I've talked to people involved with communal living situations in the past and some were left kind of soured by the experience. But it seems that you guys still keep in touch and are friends, which is pretty cool... how did you kick out creeps who would show up and hang out and mooch off of you? Just interested. Very fun site. Especially like the photo comment area(angry vegetarian,dedicated punk)!
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Teddy...................Jan 22, 2001, 00:06 (EST)
Ellen Sue just had an idea while reading the chat page...why not print out all the old archived chat from the beginning and call it "Conversations" or something ...a book.
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michelle...................Jan 22, 2001, 00:10 (EST)
stan, i enjoyed what you wrote. especially the last paragraph.
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alice...................Jan 22, 2001, 00:12 (EST)
nina, more radical than she is now? or when she left the comfort of newport beach and started sunnyridge? what's so radical about you? (i'd really like to know...i don't mean this sarcastically, just want to know you better).
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michelle...................Jan 22, 2001, 02:37 (EST)
a lot to respond to as of late here in the outhouse. edit.
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secretagent...................Jan 22, 2001, 02:44 (EST)
shhhhhhhhhhh!
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pa from jim...................Jan 22, 2001, 02:51 (EST)
How do y'all manage to stick your fingers in your ears and slap each other on the backs at the same time?
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jim...................Jan 22, 2001, 12:18 (EST)
.....easy, take your left index finger and stick it in your ear....meanwhile with the other hand slap your friend on the back......
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Peter...................Jan 22, 2001, 19:15 (EST)
To answer jim from PA re how we got rid of moochers...What do you Sunnyridgers think? I think we convinced ourselves that there were no moochers. I remember being very concerned with this question for most of the time at SR., yet I remember only one person we actually escorted off the premise... to the Salem State Mental spital, and we may have asked Mr. Clean to leave. We did ask the Revolutionary sought by the Fbi to leave, but only because he wanted to use SR as a base for his political activities and we couldn't do that. Any one else remember anything on this subject?
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Nina...................Jan 23, 2001, 00:46 (EST)
Alice-I am not going to answer that question on a forum such as this...
As far as printing this up as a book, someone would need to do some serious editing....I'm not volunteering.
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Leah...................Jan 23, 2001, 01:26 (EST)
I don't know Nina.I kind of like hearing Mom described as someone who wouldn't take any shit. Remember when she faced the cops, bare chested, saying "you need a search warrant to go in there"? Wow. Teddy, I feel left out, you didn't insult, I mean, mention me.
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Teddy...................Jan 23, 2001, 09:47 (EST)
Leah...Nothing to insult at the moment...I do enjoy you being here very much, however. You guys should make a profile on the Kid's page, with some pictures. I'll help.
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Teddy...................Jan 23, 2001, 09:51 (EST)
Moochers....
I just remember that Sunnyridge was basically an organic society, not restricted by laws and regulations like most communities. Seems like that weeded out undesirables in a natural way. First weeding out process was that it was not paradise on earth. We had the Sunnyridge heavies, the Hepatitis and staff plagues, only those that truly believed in Sunnyridge stayed.
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jim...................Jan 23, 2001, 11:53 (EST)
....sunnyridge was the mother of all......sr was the collective unconscious.......above all, sunnyridgers were children of the world.....all that happened good and bad was part of a belief that we belonged to the family....we were treated with forgiveness from the soul center of the planetary collective, which by the way has been promoted to the cosmic collective.....once a sr member realized that through communion in a commune, the strengh of the whole was at ones own command....take phillip as an example......the bond between people was amazing.....for me it all started when i was born in belgium and slowly revealed itself in the united states...throughout school and during my stint in the village as a searcher for "freedom from the established rules of religions and society (truth)"........the family started to gain consciousness for me in the 50s and continued on till today.....sunnyridge was the only time the reality was manifested in a issolated 3d setting, which was romantic and functional, in its funky ways...there were other settings of communal living previous to sr, but none as thorough......."the last resort",as it was sometimes called, meant not being responsable till the last possible instant and beyond.......please let this be continued by someone else.....
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jim i think...................Jan 23, 2001, 13:34 (EST)
....actualy if read in depth, the sr chat pages and better yet the whole of sunnyridge.net pages, is an explanation of itself.....ps the continuation of what i
dribbled in innocence, is automatic and will be fuffiled anyways....so please ignore that i asked for someone to continue, since what i wrote is a continuation
in its nonself..........
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jim...................Jan 23, 2001, 13:53 (EST)
.........cartoon 1967
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jim...................Jan 23, 2001, 13:59 (EST)
ted...organic morality, was what i felt also...there is a cartoon about it somewheres in my files, i will or not find it....
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granpere...................Jan 23, 2001, 19:13 (EST)
mother and twins
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grandpere...................Jan 23, 2001, 19:19 (EST)
try again
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Teddy...................Jan 23, 2001, 21:53 (EST)
jim...what a far out picture...the twins' heads could very well be large maternal breasts. Beautiful. Don't want to embarass you by calling anything you do beautiful too...but really thought the Sunnyridge analysis/poem was insightful.
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jim...................Jan 24, 2001, 17:10 (EST)
the second photo of wensdae was last summer....i kind of corrected the images....ted forget about it...i'll live with this...is there any way to correct a link after
the fact...........?
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