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From:     drug testing     dtst4765@yahoo.com

Nice site!

Urengoy, MW USA

From:     eugene     9/1/103     8:11 A.M.

yes... there are lots of nasty viruses out there...
so if you do not now have a firewall get one FREE for
personal use at

http://www.zonelabs.com

you may have to search around on the web site a little
to find the FREE version...
have been using ZONEALARM for over two years and the only
worm/virus that got by came in by email somehow... ususally
i am REALLY careful but must have messed up...

admittedly it does take a little tech savvy to figure out
how to use the firewall... but there is a built in tutorial
and a little mental elbow grease can get you there...



From:     llucy     9/1/2003     8:14 A.M.

morning all, we are having a wee storm, was hurricane but split up into tropical storm just offshore, BIG surf....wet wet wet tho and no barbecue here this weekend. sure wish we could teleport this water to oregon!



From:     Huynia     huynia@dr-test.com

Hi! You did a good site. I'a korean girl and a do not speak your language well. But it's really interesting site. Have a good day :) Huynia

Morristown, NJ USA

From:     Dica Fon Traily     dica@yahoo.com

Hi guys! Do me a favor, tell me who was your designer? He did a real good job. I tried to find his name on the site but I was not able to do it.

Boom, RU Uganda

From:     jim     9/5/103     4:01 P.M.

....dica fon traily....TED PILGER is the webmaster designer of this
site....webmaster@sunnyridge.net



From:     mij     9/5/2003     4:48 P.M.

had a great thunderstorm early this morning. lot's of
lightning and booming thunder, and although we only got a
1/4 inch, some places around takilma recieved well over an
inch.( town had zilch ) the most entertainment I've had
at 4:30 in the morning in a long time..............



From:     llucy     9/5/2003     3:24 P.M.

excellent, glad y'all got some rain. have been nearl;y speechless with oregon homesickness so far this month. sigh.
sure was nice to get home to ranch. sure was wowed again driving through the old growth government camp. ah well, maybe some job will bring me home, or not, have two more job offers here. just so far from all the friends and family,makes it hard. at times i feel i am home here in hawaii...but re-entry sure discombob-ulated me.



From:     Huy Sun Vchay     Huyvav@vsem.ru

Hi dudes. Am I the first guy from Rusiia here?

Urengoy, TX Russia

From:     jim     9/6/103     8:58 A.M.

yes you are the first



From:     Pgprint     pgprint@mail.ru

Greeting from Russia :) Do you want to exchange the links? You made Pretty nice site .

Moscow, MU Russia

From:     mij     9/7/2003     8:28 A.M.

have you ever wondered how yodeling started?.......
I didn't think so, but check out the comedy page anyway!.



From:     Tsuren     tsyren@yahoo.com

Guys, why do you post so many messeges about viagra in guestbooks? Do you have any problem? :)

Real, SP Spain

From:     DVD     dvdstaff@konkur.de

Who did do it? Do you think stolen content is a good idea? I do not think so... You?

Munick, Bawaria Germany

From:     cnn news     gerda@coxicc.com

Hi. Have you known what happens with two tea bags? Hackers etc... It's horroble, isn't it? Are you afraid the same? May it happens on this site?

Vishaite, KZ USA

From:     mij     9/13/2003     7:13 A.M.

have we moved to another country? and why wasn't I told
about it?...........



From:     mij     9/13/2003     7:17 A.M.

news update:

hurricane isabelle still dangerous and moving slowly towards
mainland. forecasters say she could be a threat to the U.S
coast sometime early next week...

George W. Bush still dangerous and moving quickly towards
more worldwide confrontations. forecasters say he will
remain a threat and continue to gain strength as long as
he remains over ignorant voters. he's currently a catagory
5 on the mijsters moronicane scale of stupidity...



From:     ji m     9/13/103     10:17 A.M.

slicks and scrones won't frake any nonnes



From:     jim     9/14/2003     2:56 P.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/cactus.html

experiment



From:     Ted     9/15/2003     5:55 A.M.

your experiment worketh...I love your cartoons,jim. art involves and expands.




From:     Slim     slim@dersa.com

Have you known about big storm yet? What do you think, internet will be alive during the event?

Forenwill, PA USA

From:     Preg     redret@uganda.ug

Why do you pick this color for the background? Do you really like it?

Ugendacity, KZ Uganda

From:     eugene     9/17/103     6:22 P.M.

ted... you have finally gone global!!!
congratulations...



From:     mij     9/17/2003     7:18 P.M.

Bush:
"No evidence Saddam involved with 911"

no weapons of mass destruction, no involvment with 911....
could make a guy wonder..
WHY THE F_ _K DID WE GO AND WHY THE F_ _K ARE WE STILL
THERE?!!!

oh well, bend over america and let bush give it to us right
in our collective asses!



From:     tehd     9/17/2003     8:04 P.M.

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Goergeotwn Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.





From:     SIG     9/17/2003     5:23 P.M.

...or Thed...



From:     Michael     drtest@hotmail.com

Have you seen Isabel? It's really horoble! I was in my car on the road!

Karolin, NK USA

From:     Ivango     ivango@yahoo.com

MIchael, I live in NJ and we do not have any problem with wind :)

Morristown, NJ USA

From:     Rita E     9/19/2003     4:56 P.M.

This is a letter to the editor of the
Illinois Valley News by Lou Chauvin(Magic Forest Farm)
I think some of you chatters would recognize Lou
It's titled 'Puppet President'
President George Bush "the speech reader" performed
poorly on Sunday night, Sept 7. He was just a bit
too obviously a puppet, mouthing words that, unforunately, merely fogged reality.
For starters, there are real wars (World War 11, our
invasion of Vietman, our invasion of Iraq, the Civil War)
and there are metaphorical "warsd" (the war on cancer,
the "war" on drugs). For Bush to confuse the "war" on
terrorism with our illegal, poorly planned invasion of
the sovereign nation of Iraq is cynical propaganda
at its worst.
We have not been provided with a single, factuallly
supported justification for Bush's war in Iraq. For
him to mix the tragedy of Sept ll, 2001, with events
in Iraq is insulting.
Everyone should know by now that there was absolutely
no traffic between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein,
that Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction--
chemical, biological or nuclear--and that is absolutely
no connection between Iraq and the destruction of the
World Trade Center. Our soldiers are dying and the
administration is lying again.
Our presence in Iraq is unrelated to the twin towers
of 9/11. For Bush "the swaggerer" to go before the
nation and say that our escapade in Iraq is a war on
terrorism is just flat wrong.
Not surprisingly, many in Iraq see the U.S. occupation
force as a kind of terrorism. And their occasional and violent response is seen as terrorism
Who is the terrorist is kind of relative. If being
a Palestinian suicide bomber at a bus stop, killing
innocents, is terrorism, then maybe Israel sending
missiles and (U.S. made) black hawk helicopters
into civilian apartments, killing innocents, is
terrorism also.

I thought this was worth printing-----Rita






From:     Ted     ted@pilger.com     9/19/2003     7:34 P.M.

just a test to see if the date works when email address added.



From:     Ted     9/19/2003     7:36 P.M.

well...the postings above that do not have a date are probably foreign...the date is from the computer and...crap, I don't know...



From:     Krot     krotov@hotmail.com

You make an interesting site, but are you sure about design? I do not want to kritisize you, but... is these colors nice?

Morristown, KA UK

From:     Webmouser     9/22/2003     6:53 A.M.

Come on, someone...TRY IT



From:     mij     9/23/2003     6:44 A.M.

went to jammin at jed's this weekend. had a great time,
although we were told that if we didn't quiet down they
would kick us out of the campsite....the "noise" was just
us laughing, but we were told our laughter could not go
outside our campsite. park pigs trying to be important.
other than that it was fun. beautiful weather and good
friends hanging out in the redwoods with three bands that
played saturday. the event itself though has been slowly
declining over the years, with only half the number of
people compared to other years.....probably because of the
camp pigs trying to be important. oh well....



From:     jim     9/27/103     7:58 A.M.

ted that entry from dave....is an adv. gimmick...these guys are really
good at spreading their wares....



From:     Huy v Gavne     hvgavne@admire.com

Is this guest book script convinient? It's not pretty nice, is it? Why do you pick it?

Uryupinsk, NA Kazakhstan

From:     stan     9/28/2003     6:48 P.M.

Hey, anybody know what's happened to bob hale? There's a big story in the washington post about a guy who now calls himself poppa pilgrim but whose original name is bob hale
Guy's got 15 kids, long beard, story says he spent time on an Oregon commune.
Poppa Pilgrim bulldozed a road through a national park in Alaska.
Guy does look suspiciously like Hale - hard to tell exactly - he's got a long beard.
Did he call himself sunstar?
You can catch the story on the Post online
Anybody know?




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     9/28/2003     8:16 A.M.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11219-2003Sep27.html

The above is the article I think Stan is refering to. I think it could be Bob Hale. Looks like him to me.
If the link doesn't work
you may have to start from
this page on the Washington Post site:
search results



From:     Tersaakova     tersaakova@mail.ru

I an from Russia and have been studying English . Textbook are bored and I try to read the sites. Your sites is very pleasant. I glad that I can understand it :)

Philapelphia, PA USA

From:     SIG     9/28/2003     8:00 A.M.

http://mccarthy-kennicott.com/MJ2003/page2.html



From:     Rita E     9/28/2003     2:19 P.M.

Hi everyone--that sure is quite a story about
Bob Hale. He did deliver Cody 32 years ago
this month right where i'm sitting.
I didn't know Bob that well, but it seems
we would have heard something about him through
the years. Regardless, he has traveled quite a
path, though not the path that I'm interested in.




From:     ters     terselanio@yahoo.com

My frien told me that citizan of your country do not like japanize. I do not trust him. Is it possible?

Kioto, KI Japan

From:     Tersaakova     tersaakova@mail.ru

I an from Russia and have been studying English . Textbook are bored and I try to read the sites. Your sites is very pleasant. I glad that I can understand it :)

Philapelphia, PA USA

From:     Forester     forester@msn.com

Hi guys. Lets change the links. I have the same siti in my native language.

Luxor, NA Egipt

From:     mij     9/29/2003     6:05 A.M.

I think Bobby boy needs to realize a little thing I like to
call "REALITY" and join the rest of us in the real world.
all you have to do is spout god this and god that and
anything you do is ok.....bullshit! we all have to answer
to our actions, and if bobby boy thinks he's any different
because he's the perennial born again nut case, to bad.
there is no difference between the nutcase who blows people
up with a bomb because "god told him to" and this gray
haired wanna-be Gandalf scraping "OUR" wilderness with his
fucking bulldozer. a scary SOB who I hope they watch very
carefully..




From:     Peter     9/29/2003     9:49 A.M.

No question about it it is Bob Hale. How about that. The article says he "worked" on a commune in Oregon. Interesting that Sunnyridge is part of his curriculum vitae. I wonder if Rita ( not Eaton) has any interesting info. Gotta hand it to him, he surely looks good in the photo... not a wrinkle to be seen....



From:     Grammar_teacher     hueplet@THFD-school.edu

There are so many mistypes on this site. Site is nice but spelling is horrible.

Morristown, NJ USA

From:     RedBull     Redbull@netzero.com

Why do you use so bad guestbook script? Matt Wright is a good guy, but it's veru old script. It's unprotected from scripts-attak.

Mewado, TX USA

From:     Tranic     tranic1983@yahoo.com

RedBull, what's wrong with this script? It's simple and FREE!!! Would you like spend money? :) LOL!

Easterwill, PA USA

From:     mij     9/30/2003     5:38 A.M.

scraping the wilderness with a bulldozer does wonders for
your complexion....



From:     stan     10/1/2003     5:25 P.M.

It was quite a flash to see him on the post front page. He's probably SR's biggest kook. 15 kids... seems to be enjoying himself and being in control. I'd actually been thinking of him.
As I read the article there already was a primitive road there and he would have gotten permission to improve it if he'd gone through the channels.
At least we can say we know somebody famous.



From:     jim     10/1/103     8:35 A.M.

bob hale, meditation was his main course, he was a marahishi follower
and did prechainsaw wood runs, was one of the early risers and a ladies
charmer......(jesse, rita's and his little boy ?), jesse had a constant
running nose....those were the total clothe sharing days...i remember
phillip wearing my favorite pants and ripping them while climbing a
tree.....bob hale put the meditation shed together....never new he had a
twin brother.....



From:     jim     10/1/103     9:38 A.M.

it's october, memories abound.....holloween's colorful theatricals of little
children and candies....pumpkin lit entries....winter's chill in rural eugene
and a chocolate heartburn....



From:     Peter     10/1/2003     8:44 P.M.

Bob Hale. I remember him well as he had some "problems" with me. He was abusive to Rita and we didn't do enough to protect her. He was definitely intense. I have a clear vision of him striding around with snot nosed Jesse on his hip... There was something quite powerful about him. Every life is a story...



From:     Peter     10/1/2003     8:54 P.M.

Re: Jim's Oct. memories-- There is a photo of the children lined up in Halloween costumes. Is it on the Web site? It was quite a thing to take them down into the Valley to Trick or Treat. I don't think we started that until they went to school...



From:     Ted     10/1/2003     8:57 P.M.
http://www.sunnyridge.net/guestbook/history/history11.html

Halloween...on the History Page,jim



From:     jim     10/2/103     8:27 A.M.
http://www.pilgrimfamily.com/Index.htm

bob



From:     Layla     layla1980@comcast.net

You have really popular guestbook, don't you? :D

Camden, NJ USA

From:     llucy     10/2/2003     3:37 P.M.

ahhhh....for some reason 'pute at home won't load sunnyridge page anymore..bookmark has fatal errors...oh well message (or not) from infinite.
took another research job here in hawaii, will spend another year....recovered from homesick for oregon i guess. will try another round december, and get a white xmas fer sure.



From:     Vovan     deto111@yahoo.com

how can I find your -email? I want to send you privat message.

Uebins, CA USA

From:     Rita E     10/4/2003     9:02 A.M.

WOW---23,000 good folks have visited
this sight. Thanks to all, and thanks
to Ted for such a delightful website.
Peace, love



From:     jim     10/4/103     1:11 P.M.
http//

advertisement for myself



From:     jim     10/4/103     1:12 P.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/cactus.html

second try



From:     Rita E     10/4/2003     2:44 P.M.

Jim--Kudos to you on your website.
and more kudos to you for your drawings.




From:     jim     10/4/103     5:13 P.M.

breaking news.....bob hale as "pilgrim" is on page two of the saturday
eugene register guard, a full page with family portrait....the same article
from the washington post by alessandra rizzo asssociated press



From:     Pass a drug test     padrte@boom.ru

Hi guys! You must be smoked up when you did this site! I cannot believe it :) It's funniest thing, which I have ever seen in my goddamn life!

New York, NY USA

From:     Bridal gown     bridalshop@yahoo.com

Is it true that bridals in your country prerfer the pink bridal gowns? I do not belive it. You are kidding me, aren't you?

Nimba, PA Uganda

From:     Ted     10/5/2003     8:20 A.M.

SUNNYRIDGE AS THE BACKDROP FOR ALICE IN WONDERLAND?

Date: 10/3/2003 3:13:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: crazy4korn59@yahoo.com
To: TPILGER@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

sorry if you already got this, but i'm not sure if it sent...
i'm in a technical theatre class, and we had to pick a play to design the set for. well, i picked Alice in Wonderland and i change the setting to a commune. well, we needed to find pictures of the location, and although i thought it would be easy, pictures of actual communes are hard to find. before i found your site, i was seriously thinking of changing everything, and therefore setting me back days. well, when i came across your site, i found almost everything that i needed. so, that's my project.
~Alyssa




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     10/5/2003     11:14 A.M.

Added a little background music...

Hey, who the heck are you guys with no date and time, foreign addresses and broken English??????
Are you legit or pulling our legs?

Only a "STING" will know for sure....



From:     jim     10/5/103     1:48 P.M.

change the music dayly, after a few repeats need to turn it off ....so i did



From:     Stamina-Rx     staminarx@yahooka.com

Do you allow advertising here?

Phila, PA USA

From:     Ostest     ostest@mail.ru

nice site. really nice. very simple, but very nice

Moscow, MO Russia

From:     Rita E     10/7/2003     12:51 P.M.

Ted, just a suggestion for music on this delightful
page--a few titles from the WW11 generation
'Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition'
'Try a Little Tenderness'
'God is My Co-Pilot'
'Sentimental Journey'

Peace, Love



From:     simon-jacques     10/7/103     1:08 P.M.

just one loop ted or an off button, it plays in collision with chopin



From:     mij     10/7/2003     4:47 P.M.

hello......................................................
...........................................................
...........................................................
...........................................................
....................................................goodbye



From:     mij     10/8/2003     6:10 A.M.

BREAKING NEWS: ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER CAN SPELL CALIFORNIA!

after months of speculation, Arnold Schwarzenegger has
finally proven he can handle the tough job of spelling the
word "California".

although many of his detractors had said he just wasn't up
to the immense responsibility of it, Mr. Schwarzenegger
held a live news conference where he actually spelled
California three times in a row without a hitch!

Arnold went on to say he has no doubt he will one day be
able to pronounce "California", although he emphasized this
would not happen over night. he also went on to say his
first order of business as Governor would be learning how
to spell and pronounce his last name, although he added he
might change his name to John Kennedy.....that way he could
say "I'll be Jack!!!




From:     Chan Hu     chanhu@nadin.cn

Let's change the links. I have the same site in native language. What do you think?

Pekin, CH China

From:     Webmaster     10/9/2003     5:56 A.M.

You who are posing as various foreigners...
Would you please introduce yourself for real...
this is all I have:
jerry.networkeleven.net



From:     Arnold Schwarzenegger     10/9/2003     8:37 P.M.





From:     average california voter     10/10/2003     6:18 A.M.

I love his movies, so he'll make a great govenor!!!



From:     jaf     info@jafgallery.com     10/10/103     8:14 A.M.

....transformations.....changes....awakening from dreams.....illusions



From:     stan     10/12/2003     5:07 P.M.

And now we have the gropenator ready to turn his awful movie fantasy world into reality. Actually one of his first priorities is to deregulate the rest of the cal energy biz - he's a friend of Kenny Boy's. Once again I'm glad I'm not there.
And why do these fake people want to annoy us - nothing better to do?




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     10/12/2003     7:42 A.M.
http://www.sunnyridge.net/guestbook/secret.html

Regarding the Bob Hale phenomenon, I wrote Rita Downs and she added her personal account on the SECRET GARDEN (see link above...password required)



From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     10/12/2003     7:47 A.M.

I have some more information on the great imposter.

You know, I am not really that savvy with much of the technical stuff behind the internet and even worse on my own computer...but I have found the following information on the source, at least, of the aforementioned chickenshit (no offense intended...love ya, bro)...

IP ADDRESS: 66.162.134.137
LOCATION: Portland, Oregon,
Host Name: NETWORK ELEVEN



From:     Ted     10/12/2003     8:53 A.M.

P.S...
The above information might very well be wrong...I am quite used to the failure, fraud, complexity and instability of the web.
Also...
My apologies...the "chickenshit" could also be "sister"!



From:     eugene     10/13/103     10:36 A.M.

whoa... been away for a while... and just read about bob hale
did not know him... but... how could any of us end up as such
crazies!!! just joking... we were all a little differant to
begin with were we not???

hope all is well with everyone...



From:     mij     10/13/2003     5:24 P.M.

sounds to me like BOB is a SLOB with a fertile NOB that
shot a GOB and produced a MOB so he wouldn't have to get a
JOB.

just a thought....

hey eugene!



From:     Ted     10/13/2003     8:11 P.M.

mij...most of the time I smile...occasionally a bell laugh...but the above was laughing out loud!
Thanks



From:     eugene     10/13/103     10:19 P.M.

hey mij...
good to read all that has been going on...
hope tonight finds everyone healthy and happy...
peace love



From:     Bridal dress     bridalst@yahoo.com

pretty nice :)

Morrisvill, TX USA

From:     mij     10/14/2003     4:48 P.M.

ted, thanks for being a good audience.....

soooooooo, what's new in the world of weirdness? let's have
a looksy...

The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry has published a study on
"rhinotillexomania", which is the medical term for nose
picking. in the study, researchers came to the startling
conclusion that the habit is "common among adolescents".
the study also found that 65 percent of people use their
index finger to do the picking, 20 percent their pinkie,
and 16 percent use a thumb. ( I use my big toe.)

Filipino Sen. Sergio Osmena announced that if necessary,
he will have sex on the floor of the Senate chamber to stall
further appointments of committee chairmen.

James Reilly, 36, an attorney from South Africa, won a radio
contest for the "wackiest act." His stunt: Skydiving naked
into the middle of an army parade with the sponsor's
product- a deordorant stick - taped to his genitals.
he won a new car.

according to a new survey by Roto-Rooter, 70 percent of
Americans have experienced an "unforgettable moment" in the
bathroom. ( hmmmm )

The Group Of Eight Summit drank 7,800 gallons of Evian while
discussing the world shortage of drinking water.( must have
been thirsty for a solution )

A Norwegian air ambulance crew ignored the smell of an
onboard fire because they thought it was the patients
farting. After smoke filled the cabin, the co-pilot
managed to bring the plane down safely. (...no comment...)

The town of Lost, Scotland, has lost it's town sign.

This really surprised me...
250 people were injured in this year's stone throwing
festival in Pasham Pud, India.

A mile long swim in Boston to celebrate the city's clean
beaches was canceled because of water pollution.

A burgler broke into a Berlin jewelery store containing $3
million in precious gems...and got away with $59 worth of
costume jewelery. ( more like a bungler, not a burgler. )

Didn't we just go through this?...
More than 600 people were injured, many seriously, in this
years Stone Throwing Festival in Pasham, Pud, India.
the ritual, in which residents of the village form groups on either side of the river Jaam and hurl stones at each other, is held every year.
last year, only 250 were injured. ( some advice. if your
ever in Pasham, Pud, and someone ask's if you'd like to get
stoned, say NOOOOOO!!!!)

A woman who claims to be Saddam Hussein's mistress says he
takes lot's of Viagra and dances to Frank Sinatra's
"strangers in the night".

talk about goin' to the dogs....
A 10-year-old boy who escaped from a care center two years
ago in Santiago, Chile, was found living in a cave with a
pack of stray dogs.
"he lived in a cave with dogs and roamed the streets for
food with them," said Della Delgato, head of Chile's
National Child-care Service.

and finally, a fitting story to end this...whatever it is..
A Malaysian food vendor has been arrested after boiling food
and dirty underwear in the same pot. Health officials were
about to search the man's stall when he pulled the underwear
out of the cooking pot and threw it into the river.
Some stall-holders believe that putting dirty underwear in
their cooking pots attracks customers.

well, have to check on dinner. don't want to burn the
underwear....everyone knows it loses it's flavor.

peace.



From:     llucy     10/14/2003     4:37 P.M.

is that a "feelabuster"?



From:     alice     a_mager@yahoo.com     10/15/2003     9:08 A.M.

Hi everyone. Been a long time since checking in. Have to scroll through lots of stuff to find sunnyridge, but it's worth it. Ted, can you email me the new password for the secret garden?



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From:     jim     10/16/103     10:01 A.M.

.....hello alice...how are you doing these strange days of war and
weirdmesses ?.......i'm not sure your email address on the site is
functional.....so i'll greet you on the chat ....did you have a super warm
dry summer, like in eugene....i'm now sharing an apartment with
michelle and also staying on the coast....



From:     Rita E     10/16/2003     10:41 A.M.

Hello Alice, It has been quite awhile since
you adorned these pages--'WELCOME HOME'
It is really good hearing from you--hope
you will stay awhile.
Peace, love--




From:     eugene     10/17/103     9:51 P.M.

it was an absolutely gorgeous day in NM today... about 75
without a cloud in the sky... the vault of the heavens a
perfect turquoise... i went to the park and played guitar
and visited some friends at new mexico tech in socorro for
dinner... arlo guthrie played at the university... but i thought it was not until tommorrow night so we missed it...

he was a playing "alice's restaurant" for sure... sigh...
would have loved to have seen that... hope indian summer
has set in for all... enjoy... joy... happiness... love



From:     mij     10/18/2003     7:07 A.M.

"you can get anything you want, at alice's good eats"




( I mean restaurant...)



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From:     Rita R     10/18/2003     7:29 P.M.

Hi everyone--an added comment to Eugene
missing Arlo's performance. I will commiserate
with you Eugene--I would feel badly too if I
had missed him--he's one of my all time favorites.

A little trivia from the Eaton History book.
In the 60's, every Thanksgiving Day, we had to
play Alice's Restaurant before dinner. Everyone
enjoyed doing so-we all had our favorite parts(not turkey).
My favorite was of course the 'group W bench'.
And on any given Thanksgiving Day during that time,
there were at least 10 graduates from that bench,
my oldest son included, at our banquet.
Maybe this Thanksgiving I'll resurrect the old album.
Haven't played it in years. Anyway, thanks for the memory.
Peace, Love



From:     SIG     10/18/2003     9:49 P.M.

In Sept. '66, as I was getting ready to move to New Paltz, I met a guy in the East Village named Geoff Bowie Outlaw (a Native American). He was about to celebrate his 4-F classification with a giant joint. I went to his (tiny) apartment with him, where we smoked it. He told me he had friends in Stockbridge, Massachusettes, who were renovating a church, and that I should come up and visit. I never did. But, later, when I saw "Alice's Restaurant," I saw Geoff again. He was Roger, who went to the dump and got busted with Arlo....



From:     eugene     10/19/103     12:27 P.M.

ahhhhhhhhh... the little missed opportunities in life... one
step away from being rich and famous... who knows... you
could be touring with arlo till this day...

told my wife about missing concert... she hauled out the album

too!!! i was 4-F too... polio as a child... and yet i burned
my draft... nothing like a no consequence act of civil
disobedience... course the was pre-ironic times!!! LOL




From:     eugene     10/19/103     12:40 P.M.

spelling and grammar suck today!!! ROFL




From:     eugene     10/19/103     12:41 P.M.

hye... you know for live chat... what about instant messenger
through yahoo or aol... it is free software and we can create
a private chat room with a password...

my aol and yahoo handle is nmedanos and i am on most every
evening... if anyone wants to connect...

i have really been getting into this... i know that yahoo
also has voice over the internet if your sound card permits
but have not used this yet as i need to buy a headset with
microphone... expect this to be about $20... for a cheapee...



From:     mij     10/22/2003     4:40 P.M.

flooding in Washington, and nary a drop here
A pretty safe bet for another dry year
so while bush is giving it to are collective rear
are woods will be burning like a creosoted pier
but we'll always have something that will make us cheer
a joke, a toke, and a tall glass of beer!

or not...






From:     alice     10/23/2003     5:42 P.M.

Hi jim, rita and all - staying pretty unaffected by all the war and weirdness outside of my little community of Oregon House. Hardly go to town or beyond - mainly because of my health, but partly from choice. Prefer the quiet here. My radical political days have passed and only have occassional urges to protest, but haven't done anything more radical than vote since before SR. CA politics are a sad joke. National politics, well...don't want to go there. Things heated up in the summer - kind of like SR summers - things got really hot Aug 15 when a small forest fire swept through my property and several of my neighbors. Total of about 15 acres burned, probably about 4-5 of mine. Lots of firewood for the next few years, some very memorable moments, and a better view. Got a phone call about a fire next door, got dressed (laying nekkid in bed) grabbed my purse, called my dog and hopped in the truck, drove down my very long driveway through some flames....so yes, it's been a hot summer. We lost 2 sheds and some stuff but our house is fine. Driving away from the flames, I was so gratefull just to be, that I really did not care what was burning. Other than that, life is pretty peaceful...oops, forgot, we just got a new puppy so forget the peaceful part - change that to playful. Everytings just fine....



From:     mij     10/24/2003     6:47 A.M.

That sounds like you had an exciting ( and not the good kind
of exciting ) summer, Alice. Glad you and most of your
property came out OK. As for us, they just issued a fire
weather watch for southern Oregon and northern California,
due to very low humidities and rather high temps. ( 80's )
we've had literally no rain, while the northern half of
the state has at least seen modest amounts. Between the
stupid weather and the stupid president, it's hard to keep
a good attitude.....but I will anyway...maybe.

may rain and peace be in the forecast soon.




From:     jim     10/24/103     8:24 A.M.

alice...you sound mellow...world matters are hard to follow, and can get
confusing....so basicaly i know nothing....the weather, traffic, prices are
what i see, feel, and taste.....tv can be funny at times.....see you all, i'm
off to a friday drawing session, i'll say hi to barbara for all, she does the
sessions also



From:     ji     10/24/2003     6:07 P.M.

testing



From:     stan     10/28/2003     5:42 P.M.

Ted, anybody, so you remember the ganja chant - Om shiva shankara hari hari ganja? what does shankara mean?
doing research for my book which, since I've not been working for the last six weeks, I've had lots of time to work on.





From:     Ted     10/28/2003     6:23 A.M.

stan, I found a lot of info typing shankara in search engines. Shankara is the name of an Indian saint.



From:     SIG     10/28/2003     7:46 A.M.

The word "Shankara" is a combination of two words, namely "shanka" and "hara". "Shanka" means doubt and "hara" means destroyer. Thus the word "Shankara" means He who destroys or defeats doubt.



From:     mij     10/29/2003     7:17 A.M.

George W. Bush is still an evil, stupid bastard who is
killing our young men with impunity and driving our country
right into the shitter. there is absolutely no difference
between a serial killer and our ugly, evil little president.
If Georgy boy were Ted Bundy the country would be all aroar
and up in arms over such brutality, but for some reason his
being president makes murder ok. He's arrogantly and
stubbornly sticking to his embarrassing foreign policy like
a fly sticks to fly-paper, and everyday more young
Americans, your sons and daughters, are being killed and
maimed because of an evil bastard who could care less about
loss of life and who will use any resource he has at his
disposal to continue with what can only be described as
complete madness! this chat was filled with supporters of
this administration a couple short years ago, and now not
one person who supported this fucking murderer and his ilk
have anything good to say or even try to come up with a
reason why he's anything but the troll-like creature he
is. What he's done to this country in just the few short
years of his un-official dictatorship is scary, and as sure
as shit stinks, we'll pay dearly for the ignorance of
electing this monster for our president.(we already are)


but thank our lucky stars we have a president who's to damn
ugly for a sexual scandal.....there isn't an intern in all
of washington, female or male, who would give him head!


but other than that, I don't have much to say.


later.






From:     name withheld     10/30/2003     4:29 P.M.

someone ought to wash your mouth out with soap and your mind as well. you need help.



From:     eugene     10/30/103     6:27 P.M.

well mij...
the name withelds are back...

there will always be those who are so ignorant to what is
going on that they will follow their fellow lemmings over
the edge...

one can only hope the criminals now running the government
have screwed so many people that even the brainwashed
idealouges will have finally have had enough before they
complete their agenda... the destruction of america and
the american middle class...

vote... vote even if you vote for bush... at least you will
be doing your civic duty... and think about the kind of
world george bush wants us to live in...



From:     jim     10/31/103     6:48 A.M.

ease off people....bush represents the system where we are at
today.....the best way to change it, is to be yourself and promote a
peaceful future....anger is not the solution...humor eases.....changes are
always happening and hopefuly the people who can give us a better
leadership will emerge.....



From:     Mij     10/31/2003     7:10 A.M.

Eugene: your right....and thanks.
Jim: I hope that's true.
Name Withheld: Soap is for fucking wimps. I use gasoline.
unleaded. ( I still cuss, but I get better milage! )

and oh yeah, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your
armpits!

NEXT!!!



From:     eugene     10/31/103     11:30 A.M.

old chinese(?) curse...

"may you have an interesting life"...

this works!!! my life has been VERY interesting...
wonder who gave me the evil eye???

jim... i basically agree...
but... anger is one of the great human motivators...
now violence on the other hand... this i try to avoid
at all costs... and have been succesful in my life...

would that our government agreed... but empires are not
built on non-violence...



From:     jim     10/31/103     12:59 P.M.

eugene........anger destroys...blocks the energy flow...creates all sorts of
misconceptions....distortions....it really angers me.....?



From:     mij ( when I'm not ranting )     10/31/2003     5:28 P.M.

"Anger is the wind which blows out the lamp of the mind".



From:     Ted     10/31/2003     8:40 P.M.

H a P p Y H a L L o W e E N



From:     stan     11/1/2003     6:54 P.M.

May you live in interesting times, old Chinese curse, coming right up.
Anger always reflects a poor response to any situation, but sometimes I like it, or don't want to put the effort into restraint or don't know how... but I'm always either or both embarrassed or apolgetic when it happens. Same for getting too excited in conversation.
Especially bad getting angry here, but....
Stew thanks, but one more, how does shiva, chief god go with shankara destroying doubt?



From:     jim     11/1/103     7:22 A.M.

good one ted....hi stan



From:     Ted     11/1/2003     9:45 A.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/peter.jpg

Peter...
Are you still working behind the above desk?



From:     SIG     11/1/2003     7:44 A.M.

http://hinduwebsite.com/siva/sankara.htm



From:     eugene     11/1/103     5:51 P.M.

i generally agree with the concept that anger should be
avoided at all costs... but we are human... and things
do make us angry... so to me the most important thing
is how do we deal with anger... explode? get violant?
or use the emotional energy to try and create change...
this does not mean that the anger must be expressed as
such... but the energy can be used in a motivational
manner... "i am angry... and i am going to do something
to change things"

this would to me be a positive use of anger... my basic
precept of dealing with life is compassion... but i do
get angry and try to deal with situations that have made
me angry... in my past i ran away from situations that
made me angry or turned it inward on myself... i have
found that both of these responses are counter productive
in the long run...



From:     Bush     11/2/2003     9:10 A.M.



This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented
by an eagle, Bin Laden, Saddam and others should have read up on their
Muslim passages... The following verse is from the Quran, (the Islamic Bible)

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a
fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands
of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more
rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and
there was peace.

Note the verse number!!!!!)



From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     11/2/2003     7:41 A.M.

Bush, please site your source:
I found the following for 9:11

"But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand."

And if you read it in context it sounds like those of the "faith" should definately fight those who are not.



From:     mij     11/2/2003     7:55 A.M.

once again we have no name from someone with no point....
oh well, I'd remain anomynous to if I had something that
stupid to say...



From:     eugene     11/2/103     8:58 A.M.

sounds as if "shrub" is citing an urban myth...
or trying to create one...

or just driveling...



From:     Bush     11/2/2003     8:06 A.M.

"19 U.S troops shot down and killed this morning....
and I had 20 in the pool. DAMN"!!!



From:     Bush     11/2/2003     12:02 P.M.

Well, that's what my Koran says. You must have the communist version.



From:     shush     11/2/103     9:43 A.M.

..the koran, the *yuban, the bibles, (words written for guidance). the
ideal, a human being, compassionate, awake and knowledgeable......



From:     shush     11/2/103     10:04 A.M.

*a good cup of coffee



From:     Rita E     11/2/2003     10:50 A.M.

Where have all the christians gone?
Gone to killing fields everyone.
When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn.
THOU SHALL NOT KILL!!!Now those words are written in stone.
THOU SHALL NOT KILL!!!
The 'Eagle' has landed in his own pool of blood
and arrogance and stupidity, compounded by
LIES UPON LIES(proven)
Bush and his gang of Thugs are the
foreign terrorists wreaking havoc in
a country that we have no business whatsoever
being there. And of course, Bush says he will not
be deterred from his killing course--this is the
same man who hid under the couch in the Vietnam War.
This is the same man that is already denying rightful
benefits to those poor kids who are getting wounded
and killed in Iraq. And this is the same man who has
already cut pensions from the Veterans of all wars.
You pro-war people sure were quick with your yellow
ribbons flying, to salve your own conscience, so why
aren't you so quick to support the troops when they
really need it. You should all take Bush to task for
his constant lies and a stupid policly in Iraq and
save our men and women from anymore useless killing.
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME AND LET BUSH AND CO. STEW IN
THEIR OWN BLOODY KARMA.







From:     jim     11/3/2003     2:56 P.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/allicando.html

...hi



From:     Illinois Valley Weather Cast     11/4/2003     4:41 P.M.

an unexpected shot of rain and snow moved through today...
sunnyridge is blanketed in snow...looks nice.

we weren't quite at the snow level, but got a nice little
shot of rain. hope more will come soon.

peace.



From:     Peter     11/5/2003     12:17 P.M.

No Ted I am no longer behind that desk. Rather than say that I am retired I usually tell people who want to know what I do that I am between opportunities.



From:     Ted     11/5/2003     8:35 P.M.

A nice sunset today



From:     Mij     11/6/2003     7:15 A.M.

Ted, thanks for your appreciation...and for not killing me!





From:     stan     11/7/2003     1:03 P.M.

Jim,
Do you no longer have your website. jafgallery? My emails aren't getting through.




From:     jim     jamesfrankfort@earthlink.net     11/7/103     6:36 A.M.

my host pacificonline.net has been down a few days, major qwest
fuckup...you can reach me at earthlink...might have
to get a new host....




From:     jim     11/7/103     4:32 P.M.
www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/likexmas.html

my host is reconnected, my regular email is on line, three days of lost
time on the web.......



From:     jim     11/7/103     4:38 P.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/likexmas.html

need the full url, sorry



From:     Jerome     11/7/2003     10:30 P.M.

Like Bob Dylan said, "living through the 60s was like seeing a UFO." ---Country Joe

Been awhile.



From:     Jerome     11/7/2003     10:52 P.M.

Been awhile, athough...

"Time is too slow for those who wait
Time is too swift for those who fear
Time is too long for those who grieve
Time is too short for those that laugh
but for those who love.....
Time is eternity" - White Bird, by David LaFlame, 'It's a Beautiful Day' --Written 1968
I saw them 1969. ....etherial...

Approach each individual as an individual, know yourself, your learning style, values, atitudes, re-use, re-invent, be eclectic, be original, etc.and be willing to have everything questioned (and question them yourself)
and you will have a universal best practice solution to your issues by not having a codified universal solution... The greatest and wisest of mortals have only been able to offer us grains of sand from a vast desert of unknown
knowledge, whatever guru you might pick.

Fortune,
Jerome




From:     Ted     11/8/2003     6:52 A.M.

Hello Jerome

Seems like your hiatus was quite centering.
Hope it was healing also.
Love your clear thinking posted above.



From:     SIG     11/8/2003     5:50 A.M.

Hello, Jerome; hope you are doing well....

The key word in your post is "mortals"...



From:     eugene     11/8/103     9:06 A.M.

jerome...
so good to hear from you again...
hope your health has improved...

i think i saw the same group n 1968-69 in SF at the filmore.
the song i remember was:

white bird in a golden cage
on a winters day, and it's raining

there was an electric violin in the group and a beautiful
woman singer... cannot remember who else was there but it
was someone famous... but the "white bird" song was the
one that sent me...



From:     jim     11/9/103     4:01 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/reina.html

reina doing a great show on the harmonic
concorDANCE nov8th, in williams



From:     Ted     11/9/2003     4:20 P.M.

Great picture, jim! Thanks for letting us see such a good recent photo of Reina.
I see she is into magic, no?




From:     jim     11/9/103     7:56 P.M.

no magic, that was dry ice in the pot....and it was a packed house for the
performance, the five girls gave a profound performance



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From:     eugene     11/10/103     4:46 P.M.

my god!!!

an ad bot has invaded these pages...
and on a pun to boot!



From:     mij     11/10/2003     4:45 P.M.

Mij's "almost harmonica words"....

1. "barmonica" (girl named monica who hangs out at the bar)
2. "carmonica" ("""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a car.)
3. "farmonica" ("""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a farm)
4. "jarmonica" ("""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a jar)
5. "parmonica" ("""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" a golf
course)
6. "warmonica" ("""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" with
george bush )




From:     eugene     11/10/103     7:22 P.M.

mij...
before anyone else does it...

billmonica >>> poor mister clinton...

though he was a MUCH better president than shrub...



From:     Rita E     11/11/2003     7:03 A.M.

TODAY IS VETERANS DAY--11/11/11

What a catastrophe that every year we
have a new war.

WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN, WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN




From:     SIG     11/11/2003     6:37 A.M.

"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."--Gen 6:5



From:     jim     11/11/103     1:40 P.M.

...yipes !!!!.....



From:     llucy     11/11/2003     3:48 P.M.

hmmm, have been about speechless and in observant mode for months.
started new job..much better working college level research with my peers..amazing. appear to have peacefully extricated self from feds for a while.
..but i must disagree with good old god,..not all of man's thoughts are wicked, evil, ignorant..the spinning bauble of indescrible variation...
YIPES indeed JIM! REINA glowing!
Jerome...peace and light, hope U be better
Eugene, the hammer about hitting down coldwise now? hope your music is prospering
RITA, I just had my GRACE for a week, had a week off between jobs went to beach every day with her, was glorious.
MIG
the jarmonica ( guy not called monica with jokes)! is radiofree still happening? wots the number on the dial?
TED
loves and trucking




From:     Mij     11/11/2003     5:07 P.M.

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the
earth, and that the wickedness was perpetrated in his name."
--Mij 69



From:     Ted     ted@pilger.com     11/11/2003     7:37 P.M.
http://pilger.com/ted/images/sunset11-11-03.jpg

On my way home this 11-11 day (my Astro tolled 66666 today too) beautiful sunsets.



From:     mij     11/12/2003     7:55 A.M.

llucy, the radio was shut down again by the FCC. wasn't
because of content or anything "offensive", it was just
because someone hated the fact that we were not "legal"...

probably Bush.




From:     Joel     11/12/2003     9:21 A.M.

That picture Teddy posted is a not so subtle reminder that there is a God in heaven. Beauty and grandeur of that sort is the result of more than just random processes.



From:     jim     11/12/103     4:01 P.M.

...yipes !.....



From:     mij     11/12/2003     6:14 P.M.

I'll see your yipes, and raise you one.

...yipes!....yipes!



From:     Ted     11/12/2003     7:29 P.M.

tolerance...humility...open-mindedness...unity...evolvement...a healthy liver and spleen



From:     SIG     11/13/2003     7:14 A.M.

Webmeister--Of course you know all of the above have been in short supply here--except maybe for a healthy liver and spleen....



From:     stan     11/14/2003     3:32 P.M.

Jim,
I think the solar flares were the problem. We had a strange computer thing here. I went to the SR site and others and they were stuck on a certain day. For five days it wouldn't go past oct 25!

And I'll see your 2 yipes and raise you 3.
Stew, it's people who see life in black and white who lack openness. Bringing up subjects you know will evoke a negative reaction - like advocating drugs at a police convention - involve a lack of finesse and sensitivity.
Beautiful sunsets also happen in the middle of war and devastation. The inmates at Aushwitz and their murderers had some great sunsets.



From:     mij     11/14/2003     7:12 A.M.

Exactly!



From:     Joel     11/14/2003     8:17 A.M.

So what are you saying? That because there is clearly evil in the world that good does not exist - and that there cannot possibly be a God. The questions of why a good God would allow evil, suffering and pain, have been asked by all generations. Our own Jewish tradition deals with this question extensively in the book of Job. You might try reading that someday in an attempt to understand what answers are provided there. Another Jewish prophet, speaking for God declared "My ways are not your ways. As far as the heavens are above the earth so are my way above yours." Our lack of ability to answer the most perplexing questions in life does not mean that there are no answers. It just means we are limited in our understanding. Man afterall is not God.



From:     SIG     11/14/2003     7:05 A.M.

The quote from Genesis was a description of the world just before the Flood, and was in answer to Rita's question in the quote above it. The human condition is no different now--with the exception of an open door to salvation from sin. The answer to Rita's question, for the majority of humankind, is "Never." There will be no world peace until there is true peace in every human heart--and that will never happen. But a few will find peace. I just don't see that kind of peace on this message board.



From:     jim     11/14/103     1:59 P.M.

this the 21st century......my objection is, you haven't as yet learned how
to behave....if you cannot see yourself clearly as conscious thinkers
trying to cope with evolution.....please do not push your archaic
victorian shovenism upon us like junk mail....i have studied for years and
have seen the many traps laid out to make cults, sects and slaves out of
searching flourishing beings. ignorance is bliss so i heard....there are
crazies out there who kill and destroy for insane superstitions, or no
reasons at all except the thrill.....what's the use, you can only see what
you have been fed.......compassion and comprehension of human nature
as it is evolving could enlighten.....belief is not reality...and yes there is
hope, as i can see in our children, who have managed maintaining
themselves in psychic freedom



From:     jim     11/14/103     2:29 P.M.

......yipes!!!!



From:     eugene     11/14/103     5:22 P.M.

jesus!!!

back to arguing religion again???

OK!!! well it has been relatively quiet lately...
there is nothing on earth to prove or disprove the existence
of god, heaven, hell, or any other religious belief...

it is what it is for gods sake <-- ironic, no???
so just live and let live... let each one discover for
themselves what they want to believe and get off your
high horse, for christ's sake <-- more irony!

myself... i try and practice compassion... that meets all
my needs spiritually... it provides immediate payment to
my inner self by making me feel good... if there is an
afterlife... i do not really care about a god that will
hold me guilty for not mumbling a few words... but will
redeem the most dispicable character for mumbling those
words... (ok... i know... true transformation thru redemtion
is the actual criteria for absolution)... but i really do
not like theology very much... anyones... and especially
those followers of theology who want to tell everyone
else how to live...

by the way... i agree... it is not likely that we will ever
have "peace on earth"... to many humans abound... <-- irony

also if i have misused the word irony by pointing out things
as ironic when they are not... hey... its semantics... not
something i have studied in depth... but perhapse you will
get the general drift...



From:     eugene     11/14/103     5:33 P.M.

oh...
if it works for you GREAT!!! all for it...



From:     God     11/14/2003     4:45 P.M.

Even I get tired of hearing about me!



From:     stan     stan22@ekno.com     11/15/2003     6:05 P.M.

In fact I wasn't raising the question of good God, bad things at all. Just questioning the good sunsets means God theory. God means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.
Stew, you say true peace will never happen in people, sounds pretty shortsighted to me, can you see 100,000 years in the future?

But I have a request...
This a personal appeal for help getting my new book - now in a middling draft - edited. It's the story of Sunnyridge (and a lot more) only set in the year 2999. In the case of String of Pearls, my first book, time and money and life conspired to compell me to publish it without proper professional editing, and it shows, and I am committed to putting out an upgraded second edition eventually.



But first, a significantly higher priority is my novel. It will have much wider appeal and has to be done right the first time. I’m including a brief synopsis to give you an idea of what you’d be supporting.

If you can afford $20 - $50 - $100 - $200 towards the $3000 I need to hire an old friend who is perfect for the job, send me an email and I'll let you know where to send the check. What you’d get, in addition to feeling good about helping and being paid back as soon as I get my slippery hands on a significant chunk of moola, is a signed copy, however small the contribution.

Also let me know if getting paid back is a high or low priority - everybody will be paid eventually, but I might not get the whole $3000 in my hands at one time.

Y3K

Y3K is a look back from the year 2999 at the world’s looming social/ecological crisis - I figure in the middle twenty-teens - from the viewpoint of thirtieth century hippie communalists, here called ‘huggers’. In contrast to virtually all novels of the future I’ve come across which are either post-apocalyptic disaster scenarios or depictions of built worlds covered with 200 story buildings but whose people have not evolved mentally or spiritually, Y3K postulates a peaceful, pastoral future where wars, human degredations and large income disparities are long past.

Loosely based on the biblical ‘1000 years of peace’ subsequent to ‘Entropy Gaia’, the earth’s near death experience, it describes a world’s people who have learned their lesson, i.e., they live lightly on the earth and allow the natural environment to regenerate. The conflict arises, ‘Satan returns’, in the form of a political movement that proposes to reestablish a cycle of growth and exploitation starting with logging of ancient forests which have been held inviolate for the previous millennium.

It is an exposition of communal life - I postulate about 100 million of the world’s 1.7 billion people in 2999 living in communal families - and my views on nearly everything; God, spirituality, society, politics, environment, love, sex, drugs, what have you.

Y3K is a road novel that nearly circles the world - it takes place in about a month in the fall of 2999 and describes different cities and communal families and huggers’ attempts to protect the forest and counter the new growth mania.

Y3K is hopeful in the long run, pessimistic in the short view. It describes a hip earthly paradise under threat from the very same callous and disrespectful attitudes towards life and the environment that we deal with today. But at least Eden is attainable.








From:     Webmeister     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     11/15/2003     7:11 A.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     jim     11/15/103     8:50 A.M.

ted your poll is fine but the results are confusing, what does stan have to
do with cave junction liking us ?



From:     Ted     11/15/2003     10:07 A.M.

Ooops...fixed it



From:     stan     11/16/2003     4:42 P.M.

All, I put the address to send money to on the sectret garden page



From:     jim     11/16/103     11:48 A.M.

click here is culprit



From:     SIG     11/16/2003     3:23 P.M.

What Harmonic Concordance?



From:     SIG     11/16/2003     3:50 P.M.

This is really worth reading carefully -- what further insights it brought!:
http://www.crystalinks.com/harmoniconcord.html
Frinstance, I never even knew the Verrazano Bridge was a tuning fork....



From:     Mij     11/18/2003     6:36 A.M.

hello all. sitting with my coffee waiting for my annual eye
check-up and listening to the radio.( Simply Red, holding
back the years...love that song.)
yesterday at work I came across an interesting item. as I
was trying to clean-up what was an old chicken coop, I
noticed out of the corner of my eye a piece of paper
stapled to the outside wall. I'd seen it before, but never
really took time to ckeck it out. The reason I took notice
this time was because I saw the name "Korican" in the upper
left corner. When I got closer, I realized that it was an
original eviction notice from Sunnyridge! I coudn't believe
it. The upper left corner has Peter, Betty, Leah, and Nina's
names. The gist of it says all people will be removed and
all buildings will be destroyed on these premesis, etc, etc.
I thought if anyone was interested, I'd "carefully" take it
down, maybe send it to you Ted, unless there's bad memories
or something and Peter and family would rather I just leave
it where it is. I'll wait for some feedback before doing
anything with it. peace to all.




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     11/18/2003     7:50 P.M.

mij, that must of been so cool.
I would love to make a "history page" out of the notice or if we get feedback from the Koricans that it is somewhat private, we could either post it on the password protected Questionaire area or Secret Garden or....not! There's my feedback.



From:     mij     11/19/2003     6:51 A.M.

Ted, thanks for your feedback. I'll try to carefully take
it down today and then we'll get it to you and we'll go
from there.....

Later today I'm gonna try to make it out to the Illinois
river falls, the ones about 3 miles or so out eight dollar
road. A couple of friends were there yesterday, and said it
was an amazing sight! literally thousands of fish are
waiting to get up river. He said he's never seen that many
fish before, and that you could almsot walk across the river
on them. anyway, I'll get back later with details. peace.



From:     Mij     11/19/2003     4:49 P.M.

Ted, I'm sending you a scanned copy of the sunnyridge
eviction notice via E-mail, and will try to get the paper
itself to you via regular mail.
Remember, this is almost 25 yrs old, so it's hard to read
in places, although if you look hard you can read just about
all of it. The paper itself was origanally in laminate, but
it will still be a trick to get it to you in one piece. I
hope this is ok for now.



From:     Ann Om Imus     11/19/2003     10:26 P.M.

Ted- You've gotta post that eviction notice. It is an historical artifact of Sr life. WHAT A FIND!!



From:     Ted     11/20/2003     8:47 A.M.

The Sunnyridge Eviction notice is temporarily posted in the SECRET GARDEN.



From:     jim     11/20/103     2:04 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/pacific.html

...on the way to eugene.....



From:     stan     11/24/2006     5:07 P.M.

Hey, if you do send a check make it out to my friend, not me - hard to sign them in Cambodia.



From:     mij     11/26/2003     7:35 A.M.

been screwing around with our new internet provider, which
was suppose to be "Earthlink", but in a word, they sucked!

so we are now with a local CJ provider "Cavenet", and they
seem much better....at least so far. We'll see.

Earlier on this chat page we were discussing Arlo Guthrie.
The reason I point this rather obvious fact out is because
I noticed he's coming to Grants Pass to play at the Rogue
Theater, the movie theater turned concert hall.

Well, that was about as interesting as Bush's Biography.

later.



From:     mij     11/26/2003     5:06 P.M.

come on ya all, what can you say?
tomorrow's that time we call turkey day
A drumstick, a breast, maybe a thigh
Oh what the hell, give 'em all a try

Does't matter if your in Iraq, serving in the navy
You'll still be thinking of that turkey and gravy
And you know you'd be tellin', a big fat lie
if you didn't finish the meal, with some pumpkin pie

but you can bet your ass, your arm, or some body part
as your wipin' your chin, and lettin' out a fart
that if the powers that be, had let turkey's talk
they would tell us humans, to go get f----d!!!!

peace and happy thanksgiving.



From:     The Eatons     11/27/2003     8:39 A.M.

THANKSGIVING
DAY


Wishing Everyone a Great Day!!






From:     SIG     12/1/2003     7:42 A.M.

A taste of the cloud show on 11/25/03...

http://www.b97hawaii.com/lenticularclouds.html



From:     llucy     12/4/2003     4:55 P.M.

i see by reading the local planet news, that as I predicted , the review and fil-ing of all environmental documents attached to Biscuit Fire, by USForest Service, has taken so long, that almost the last stumps standing (salvage) are nearly garbage, and the costs of retreival are higher than value of board feet available. ahhhhhh.you like that? it's often the case, and thankful for that we can be.

the weight..the wait...go down miss annie, there ain't nothing you can do.

i have been most busy designing research plan, starting field and lab studies,and reporting above on new job. those who listen will be glad to know its a sweet one. really!! a gambler's hand at job bingo.
it's all interesting.

when i went fer interview i had to wait for the doctorate person assigning the work...chuckle. the receptionist handed me an IQ test. since had been so long,
i went ahead and took it.just curious
we were all surprised when i scored 136 out of 140. receptionist exclaims" that's almpost a genius!"
i smiled, "oh yeh, on random days, some days am idiot savant, thank you very much...

almost.....

in dreams, i am often in the past, and some alternate version of course.EVERYONE has a different version but the harmonies..sing

soon will be flying through oregon, but at ground level..my mum had a stroke, in rehab Lincoln City, hafta pick up roadwproof vehicle central oregon and drive. believe may be faster to do 84 to coast drive south Lincoln City, what do you think JIM?, usually less snow that way...sigh.
oh and by the way, my neighbors have an excellent rental available in January..anyone feel like some ocean? warmth? year round gardening? MUST be mellow....must be VERY mellow.
RITA, thanks for feeding my GRACE again...I sure appreciate it. I will try to get to her house DEC 14-15,on my way to the ranchette.
By the way, Moonshine's daughter is preggie with her first foal, hope it makes it. Moonshine, daughter of Sheba, daughter of Gypsy, my first horse...incredible.what a long strange ride it's been
"I want to be a pirate"



From:     jim     12/5/103     7:00 P.M.

i usualy go to valley on 34 and catch i5 to portland....rarely take 18 at
lincoln city to portland and i don't think i ever drove 84, i never heard of
hwy 84.....the roads freeze rarely....slippery over alsea falls and mary's
peak, they sand all hwys.....easy drive to lincoln city...getting out is hard
....actualy, where are you coming from ? and where are we going ?



From:     Rita E     12/6/2003     6:02 P.M.

Tomorrow is December 7--"THE DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY"

And in 63 years, have we as a people,
come any closer to knowing that war
never solved a thing. Of course not.
Just look around--

Korean Police Action-1949-1954-
Thousands killed, maimed, cities
ruined, people homeless--never should
have been there, it never solved a thing
and after 50 years, our troops are still there.
FOR SHAME AMERICA

VIETNAM WAR--A DOUBLE SHAME FOR AMERICA.
AGAIN, AMERICA WAS NOT THREATENED--
The use of napalm, whole villages being
burned, and subjecting these 18 and 19 year
old teenagers to such horrors, under the phony
'warcry' of stopping communism. Of course, we didn't.

The Gulf War--Desert Storm
Again, We were not threatened one iota.
Again, we bombed and we bombed and we bombed
the hell out of Iraq--made an ungodly mess
out of that country. And for why?? Ask the
veterans of that war--all the 'yellow-ribbon'
people weren/t supporting 'the troops' when they
came home--they came home sick and our goverment
just turned their backs to them--to this day the
veterans of that war are still trying to get their due.

THE IRAQ WAR--We definitely should not have
started that war. The government lied to us,
But did we raise our voices when we were told
we were lied to? Of course not. There were a few
cries of protest here and there. But the yellow
ribbon people never came to support the troops,
like they did when they sent the boys to war on
a people who were not any threat whatsoever to America
A TRIPLE SHAME to AMERICA--and the shame is that our boys
are still there getting killed and wounded and mentally
depressed--America is in a quagmire we can't get out of.
I do hope next time our government wants to war,
we will not be so gullible and think by supporting
war, you are supporting our troops.

WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN, WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN














From:     mij     12/7/2003     6:23 A.M.

What she said.......with a few curse words thrown in for
good measure!



From:     llucy     12/8/2003     3:54 P.M.

ahhh, highway 84 runs along the columbia gorge..was thinking perhaps faster to drive to Seaside then down to Lincoln City, but probs will plow snow thru santiam junction to 22 then on to coast.coming from Central Oregon, that brave new whirld.
for years there was the Eastside, and the Westside. but suddenly in the 90's we got your central oregon..chuckle i.. am stuck in the middle again,
and i don't know what it is i should plan....



From:     mij     12/9/2003     6:51 A.M.

some christmas cheer from Chuck...( Charleston Heston )

"On the first day of christmas my true love gave to me, a
cartridge and an uzi".
"On the second day of christmas my true love gave to me, 2
pairs of gunner's gloves, and a cartridge and an uzi."
"On the third day of christmas my true love gave to me, 3
telescopic lens, 2 pairs of gunner's gloves, and a cartridge
and an uzi".
"On the fourth day of christmas my true love gave to me, 4
falling Kurds, 3 telescopic lens, 2 pairs of gunner's
gloves, and a cartrigde and an uzi".
"On the fifth day of christmas my true love gave to me,
5 SMOLDERING THINGS!.., 4 falling Kurds, 3 telescopic lens,
2 pairs of gunners gloves, and a cartridge and an uzi"
"On the sixth day of christmas my true love gave to me, 6
guns a-spraying, 5 SMOLDERING THINGS!.., 4 falling Kurds,
3 telescopic lens, 2 pairs of gunners gloves, and cartridge
and an uzi".
"On the seventh day of christmas my true love gave to me, 7
.................................

You all luck out, I have to go to work. but if anyone would
like to finish the song with their own lyrics ( keeping to
the Heston theme of course ) I'd like to hear your version.

once again, that age old question..."WHY, WHY, WHY Mij?!!!

answer is BECAUSE, BECAUSE, BECAUSE!!




From:     Charleston Heston     12/9/2003     3:47 P.M.

"7 tons of ammunition"?...



From:     Sue Z     12/10/2003     5:47 A.M.

good ones mij....I can't think of anything for day 8, but
how about "9 pummellers pummelling"?....



From:     Rita E     mij@cavenet.com     12/10/2003     9:00 A.M.
http://www.yahoo.com/wizard_small.jpg

Hi everyone--this is a picture of Lefty(Arthur)
that he posed for a children's book in the 80's.
He is 'Glim the Glorious'



From:     Rita E     12/10/2003     9:09 A.M.

Hi--Of course it didnt show
Any help for me Teddy?



From:     Ted     12/11/2003     7:47 P.M.

Rita, I received your picture and posted it on the History Page entitled "Neighbors", which is more or less dedicated to Lefty. See the latest posting there.



From:     WebMeiSteR     12/11/2003     7:56 P.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     mij     12/12/2003     6:54 A.M.

My father was a very special person....one of the strongest
men I ever knew, combined with a gentle wisdom and self
confidence that made him stand out in any crowd....I miss
him very much. I see dad in that picture...not just his
face, but Glim's whole persona. Two very special people are
my mom and dad.......

now, the chidren on the other hand!......





From:     jim     12/13/103     1:18 P.M.
http://web.icq.com/shockwave/0,,4845,00.swf

happy hollidays



From:     jim     12/13/103     1:19 P.M.

one l in holiday



From:     SIG     12/14/2003     8:03 A.M.

The capture of Saddam will send Bush's popularity polls up, no?....



From:     Rita E     12/14/2003     10:50 A.M.

Thanks Jim--that's a neat greeting.
Even got a hearty smile and laugh from
Bob and Patrick and Us.

Merry Christmas, everyone!!



From:     Rita E     12/14/2003     10:53 A.M.

Sig--of course you are right. Americans will
trample one another trying to click their approval
of him. Of course, Saddam had NO WMD, was definitely
NOT the instigator of 9/11, but noone cares about that,
especially the wishy-washy democrats. Hopefully they
found him too soon--by next November, we will have tired
of the hoopla, and people will realize that Saddam was
never any threat to America and that BUSH willingly
sacrificed, yes Sacrificed, mostly American lives, for
his own personal gains. WHAT A SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PEACE, BLESSED PEACE, to everyone.




From:     BUSH     12/14/2003     7:08 P.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     Ted     12/14/2003     7:30 P.M.
http://pilger.com/ted/christmas/christmas2003.html

jim, could you check and see if the above link works on your mac?



From:     jim     12/14/103     8:01 P.M.

link works fine, music and pics, merry to you too



From:     Ted     12/14/2003     8:46 P.M.

I like him in a bear...




From:     Ted     12/14/2003     8:48 P.M.

d



From:     mij     12/16/2003     7:02 A.M.

The year is 2025. the setting is a history class in anywhere
USA. The teacher is talking about "the event that changed
the world!"....

"...so just remember children, all these things we now
take for granted...all these things that make this world the
perfect place that it is today...no homeless, no diseases,
no hunger, no war, no pestilence, no greed, no jealousy, no
impure thoughts, no bad weather, and no evil marijuana
growers...these can all be attributed to that one event;
"THE DAY SADDAM WAS FOUND!"
..."and let us not forget the "GREAT ONE" himself... the man
who sacrificed so many young lives to find a smelly,
unshaven man hiding in a hole...Mr. Jesus H. Bush!"

"now, children, let us bow our heads in mandatory prayer"...



From:     eugene     12/16/103     2:54 P.M.

ahhhhh.... mih.....

don't you know irony died on 9/11???



From:     test     12/16/103     2:53 P.M.
what?">what?

what?



From:     test     12/16/103     3:07 P.M.
what?">what?

i think i got it



From:     jim     12/16/103     3:09 P.M.

i placed the url in the link slot, why do i get two whats, one url from sr
???...and this box folds the url with a br....



From:     Ted     12/16/2003     6:12 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/stress.html

What?



From:     Lester     chiroman@comcast.net     12/17/2003     10:17 A.M.

Re: Rita's claim that Saddam "had no WMD". Please explain to me (and the 1000's of dead Kurds) that the poisonous gases e.g. mustard gas, sarin etc.)that he used many times are NOT a weapon of mass destruction. What would you call these toxins??? A bad air day?



From:     eugene     12/17/103     5:29 P.M.

dear lester...

those weapons (actually chemicals and technology) were supplied
to the iraqis in the 1980's by france, germany, and (yes!)
the united states... at the time iraq was at war with (guess)
iran... and we along with other countries wanted to overthrow
the ayatollahs... we knew they had them and we knew they
used them and we stood by and did nothing... this was with
the implicit acceptance of the use by rumsfeld, cheney etc...
they were at that time in the reagan administration...

the UN documented the destruction of over 90% of the WMD
that were left over in the 1990's... so it is possible that
there were some perhaps as much as 10% remaining when we
went to war this time... and yes they did use some against
the kurds... i am fairly certain this was ALSO in the late
1980's before we went to war with iraq the first time...

again we did and said nothing... again rumsfeld et.al. knew
about it... and as of yet nothing has been found in iraq this
time around... so between the hypocrisy and the twisted use
of intelligence reports for political means... i am a bit
hesitant to believe anything the current administration has
to say about this...

and... saddam was a real asshole and i am glad that he is
gone... but... sometimes the cure is worse than the disease
remember: "we had to destroy the village to save it" ???

and... i hope all turns out well in iraq and for the iraqi
people... but the fact is the current administration lies
and is in the process of destroying this country... all that
will be left are the very rich and the very poor... the very
definition of a third world country... let us hope we can
oust the criminals and charlatan patriots!



From:     mij     12/18/2003     7:11 A.M.

Damn it, Eugene, quit confusing the issue by pointing out
those pesky little facts! If your not careful, you'll give
people some crazy idea that this government is corrupt, and I for one will not stand for it!!!



but I'll sit. peace.



From:     eugene     12/18/103     5:28 P.M.

oh mij...
you made me bush.... er.... i mean blush!



From:     jim     12/19/2003     3:30 P.M.
cluck ">cluck

"cluck"



From:     jim     12/19/2003     3:31 P.M.

one of the clucks, the second works



From:     mij     12/19/2003     5:41 P.M.

"what the clucks goin' on?"



From:     eugene     12/20/103     3:07 P.M.

mij...
the clucks are my chickens (we have 7) trying on their party
hats for my birthday party on jan. 1, 2004... i will be 54



From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     12/20/2003     7:57 P.M.
http://www.sunnyridge.net/guestbook/address.html#111320031113

Lester licht's address has been updated and includes a picture of the Triptych and Lester with rather famous friend.



From:     Ted     12/20/2003     8:00 P.M.

DAY 20 of the Ted Pilger Christmas Card for child-like minds.



From:     SIG     12/21/2003     8:03 A.M.

Revering the Winter Solstice--or the Summer Solstice, or the equinoxes--is like worshipping a clock. It would be much more fruitful to observe the birth of the Messiah--How he was prophesied, how he consented to limit himself in flesh for awhile, what he came to do, how he succeeded, and what it means for each of us.



From:     Rita E     12/21/2003     6:55 P.M.

Hi everyone--Well Ted, had four teenagers
here tonight for Sunday dinner--they took the
Christmas word test willingly--Marie got 25--
Angel got 30--Will got 26 and Cody(friend)
got 18. The ages were 13-15. I put a 10 minute
time limit or they would still be trying and putting
plurals--
Peace, love--



From:     Mij     12/22/2003     7:06 A.M.

Why bother doing anything? Why look at the stars, the sky,
redwoods, raging rivers, new born children, freshly fallen
snow, flickering firelight....why do anything else but read
the scriptures and compare them to everything? In fact,
maybe we can implant the scriptures in our brains at birth
and have entire lifetimes of scripture. We can make all the
food in the shape of the bible and drink liquified scripture
juice........It'll be a hoot!



From:     SIG     12/22/2003     7:31 A.M.

http://www.candlegrove.com/solstice.html



From:     SIG     12/22/2003     7:45 A.M.

Psalm 19

1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they display knowledge.
3 There is no speech or language
where their voice is not heard.
4 Their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.

In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun,
5 which is like a bridegroom coming forth from his pavilion,
like a champion rejoicing to run his course.
6 It rises at one end of the heavens
and makes its circuit to the other;
nothing is hidden from its heat.

7 The law of the LORD is perfect,
reviving the soul.
The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy,
making wise the simple.
8 The precepts of the LORD are right,
giving joy to the heart.
The commands of the LORD are radiant,
giving light to the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is pure,
enduring forever.
The ordinances of the LORD are sure
and altogether righteous.
10 They are more precious than gold,
than much pure gold;
they are sweeter than honey,
than honey from the comb.
11 By them is your servant warned;
in keeping them there is great reward.



From:     Mij     12/23/2003     6:54 A.M.

Qualm 19

1. He who spouts rhetoric.....is not but a rhetorical
rhetorician.
2. One who cannot think for onesself is blinded by the
inability to create ones own opinions.
3. Denouncing all for the sake of one completes the circle
of ignorance.
4. Spouting words of enlightenment only darkens the mind of
those wishing to see.
5. Narrowmindedness limits the ability for one to create
ones own thoughts and opinions, leaving open the door to
selfrighteousness.
6. Beating a dead horse cramps ones mind.

"Imagine no possessions, it isn't hard to do...nothing to
kill or die for, and no religion too.."
Lord Lennon

peace.




From:     jim     12/23/2003     11:08 A.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/blind.html

sans parole



From:     Mij     12/24/2003     6:44 A.M.

Ted, just wanted to say what a cool job you do with this
web site......




Ted, you do a cool job with this website!

Peace and happy holidays to you and yours, and to all
ex-ridgers, wherever you may be.

I leave you with a christmas poem....

"There once was a man from Nantucket"....
oops, wrong one! let's try again..

Reflecting back on those times, it's a special mood
thinking of family, friends, and generic food
riding into town, in that flatbed machine
loaded with hippies, dogs, and kids..twas quite a scene

barreling in the flatbed, down the tarder gulch drainage
hoping to find a store that would except hippie patronage
and though many at that time wanted to put us in the slammer
we we're always welcome at a place called hammer's

and though we,ve all moved on to different stages
ditchdiggers, librarians, designer of webpages
We all have that feeling that only we know
Remembering those times with a warm peaceful glow

Peace to all.








From:     jim     12/24/103     9:31 A.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/allicando.html

....have a warm holiday eve....



From:     Ted     12/25/2003     5:30 A.M.

The meaning of Christmas



From:     The Eatons     12/25/2003     6:57 A.M.



It has been so very nice, sharing our thoughts
and pleasures with everyone this past year.
Have a most joyful Holiday.
Love and Peace to all!!!





From:     SIG     12/25/2003     8:19 A.M.

Growing up in a Jewish home in the ‘40’s and ‘50’s, there was no Christmas for us. And so I have no sentimental attachments to card-sending, gift-giving, Christmas trees, lights, home-baked cookies, and such. In a way, I’m glad, because these types of things never present a distraction for me.

My parents might have worried that we were jealous of the Gentile kids, and all the fuss that was made. But I don’t recall feeling jealous; we Jewish kids got to play with candles and candle wax for eight days.

Back then the elementary schools would have Christmas assemblies. During them, the whole school would sing “Silent Night.” I knew I wasn’t supposed to sing that; my family had nothing to do with “yon virgin mother and child.” My mother told me to just move my lips, to pretend to be singing. She was, no doubt, afraid that if I didn’t at least appear to be singing, I might be singled out as a Jew. The memory of the Holocaust and the concentration camps was still fresh in the minds of Jewish Americans.

About ten years later, I read the Gospels for the first time. I had never read anything like them before. I loved Jesus, and believed everything He said. So I put Him with my other gods, with Buddha and Krishna and Lao-tzu and Bodhidharma and such, up there on my god-shelf. Now Christmas became a special time for me, and I could imagine the light of the Christmas star shining pure white down through the centuries, timeless.

But merely believing what Jesus said wasn’t enough, and seeing Him as just one of many ascended masters wasn’t enough. It wasn’t until eighteen years later that I came to understand my hopelessly lost condition. My ship was sinking, and I couldn’t swim. I begged Him to save me, and He did, instantly. He was my life-saver, and still is. That was eighteen years ago. Since that day, every day is Christmas for me. I wake up each morning out of a confusion of dreams, and remember the One to Whom I belong. Every day, Jesus is born in me again, and every day becomes a new Christmas Day.

“So--we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.”




From:     Ted     12/25/2003     6:35 P.M.

That's beautiful, Stew



From:     Mij     12/27/2003     8:24 A.M.

some deep thoughts from shallow minds:

"Laughter is the best medicine".....but in certain
situations, the Heimlich Maneuver may be more appropiate.

"It takes a village to raise a child".....to hate all the
people in the next village.

"You can do anything if you want it bad enough".....guess
that's why we so many can fly.

"You have to learn to crawl".....before you can grovel.

"Every dog has his day".....of course, that day consists
of smelling other dogs butts.

"You can run, but you can't hide".....except, apparently,
along the Afganistan-Pakistan border.

"An optimist sees the glass half full".....and then goes
for a new pair of glasses.

"children are a joy and a boon in your old age"..... so is
regularity.

"Good things come to those who wait".....said by someone in
the DMV line.

later.



From:     Mij     12/27/2003     6:26 P.M.

Those nagging shallow thoughts again!:

"Better safe than sorry".....What sorry said about safe.

"Strike while the iron is hot".....A steelworker's
picket sign.

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you".....What the jailer
always said to Hannibal Lecter.

"No news is good news".....Unless your a T.V anchorman.

"You can't teach an old dog new tricks".....What the pimp
said to Phylis Diller.

"The pen is mightier than the sword".....now, put the second
and third words together...

"A penny saved is a penny earned".....NOT!

later.




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     12/28/2003     10:21 A.M.
http://www.sunnyridge.net/guestbook/virtual/virtual.html

The Virtual Commune now has a few more hardwoods, the Goat Pen, and Don's place.



From:     mij     12/29/2003     4:53 P.M.

Quite a storm since yesterday afternoon. We've had 3.7
inches of rain... snow closed I-5 in both directions over
Siskiyou summit...the town of Rogue River between GP and
Medford had 7 inches of snow even though no snow fell in
the rest of the Rogue Valley...overall, I'd give it an 8.2
on the storm scale.

later.
I'm off to play Scrabble
Have a nice evening everyone

Ted, I hope you enjoyed 'Lord of the Rings'
as much as I did.



From:     Joel     12/30/2003     3:08 P.M.

I find it interesting that mij enjoyed the most recent Lord of the Rings movie, given that its creator, Tolkien was a strong beleiver in the Christian faith. Given mij's not just antipathy towards Christianity but seemingly outright disdain for its worldview, again I find it strange that he so enjoyed the LOTR film.
Not that Tolkien wrote the LOTR as a way of expressing his theological views - he strcitly denied that. But more than a little of this man's faith and philosophy comes through the books and movies however much he did not set out to do that.
I am not criticizing mij for liking the movie. I loved it and was in tears the last half hour or so from the point where Gandalph shared his view of life beyond this one with Merry or Pippin, I can't remember which.
I am not suggesting that mij or other non-beleivers change their views about Christianity based on the LOTR or anything else for that matter. I am suggesting that the animosity often expressed on this website towards a Christian or biblical world view be tempered by an appreciation for the fact that great men, such as Tolkien and many small men and women such as me, have concluded after much searching that the Christian faith has valid and meaningful answers to the questions about life, death, good and evil, love and God we all ask. We are close to the beginning of a new year and I think it would be a good resolution for all of us to make who participate on this website, to respect each other and our respective belief systems and to treat one another as the Good Book says, as you would want others to treat you.
Wishing you all a Happy and if you don't mind, blessed New Year.



From:     Joel     12/30/2003     3:30 P.M.

I mean Gandalf



From:     Mij     12/30/2003     5:33 P.M.

Joel, I love the books and the movies, in fact I've read
the books numerous times. I do not get any...relation
between the story and the bible or christianity, but that's
me. What I get from the story and what you get is just
different is all. I hope you and your family have a happy
and joyous new year.
peace



From:     Joel     12/31/2003     9:00 A.M.

Thank you



From:     jim     12/31/103     12:37 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html

spring is on its way.....



From:     jim     12/31/103     12:40 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html

woweeeeeeeeeeee,



From:     jim     12/31/103     12:41 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html

ted i'm afraid there is a glitch somewheres....



From:     jim     12/31/2003     12:48 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/happywine.html

this is explorer, my last try



From:     jim     12/31/2003     12:50 P.M.

it might be the browser safari messing up, it works ok on explorer



From:     Mij     1/1/2004     6:54 A.M.

Happy New Year to all!!.......
We are right on the edge of a major snowfall. it will
decide to snow a couple of inches, then turn back to rain,
snow a couple inches, then rain. had it just stayed snow,
we would have well over a foot, but apparently it's not
to be. but all around us major snow is falling....in fact
they just said south over the siskiyous the snow is
falling at a rate of 4" an hour! anyway, so much for the
southern Oregon weather report.....
We just got a new puppy..pure bred German shepard. It's
like having a toddler with sharp teeth! so far the only
thing he hasn't tried chewing is the ceiling....but so's
the way of little puppies...
Well, hope everyone has a great start to 2004. peace.



From:     jim     1/1/104     8:48 A.M.

heavy snow fall in eugene, all roads north south east and west closed....



From:     mij     1/2/2004     4:51 P.M.

We got about 10" of snow overnight and this morning......
very beautiful. I built a 10 foot snowman, and I have to
say, it's a workout!....but it looks pretty cool.
Adios amigos.



From:     Mij     1/6/2004     6:53 A.M.

all right everyone, please try not to write all at the
same time, It's turning this page into a madhouse for
cryin' out loud!!!!!!!!!!!






that's better.



From:     llucy     1/6/2004     6:10 A.M.

aloha! well back to our lovely Hawaii home and so incredibly happy we managed to escape the 3.5 ft of snow in Central Oregon, drove out last friday when the freeway was open between snowstorms but it took the chainedup 4wheel drive rental to make it. took us 16 hours down 97 and I5 to break out of snow at Redding. jees. then it followed us to allan's folks place at Jackson CA. amazing. first snow in years there.
we have had enough snow and here it is safely high up on the mountain.
we managed to bring our beloved dog home this trip. it went pretty well and he and allan are snoozing and snoring right now, but i have been 'pute deprived for a month and couldn't wait to clear out inbox and send greetings out.
so happy nude year to all and to all a good fellowship!



From:     Ted     1/6/2004     6:14 P.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     Mij     1/7/2004     6:54 A.M.

So now the big question, is if Mars has life
A place which looks more lifeless, than George Bushes wife
Many have questioned, whether this planet that's red
supports any life, or is completely dead
A question which to me, seems kinda dumb
for that's obviously where, Michael Jackson comes from
When I look at Bush, Rumsfeld and Chaney
I question just how long, just how many
How many years, and how many scars
Before our very own planet, looks like Mars
And if lifeforms far away, sitting around their hearth
Will debate if there was ever, any life on Earth.







From:     Jeff and Ruth Campbell     ruthandjeff@cox.net     1/7/2004     12:26 P.M.

Ruth, Serene, Bo, and I lived at Doo Dah Farm Takilma for 15 years and visited Sunnyridge mostly to party. Wondering if anyone out there recognizes our names. Most people called me Duff or Duffy.. I was a teacher at Ill Val high school.
Hoping to hear from someone... Jeff and Ruth Campbell



From:     Mij     1/7/2004     6:14 P.M.

Hello Jeff, It's been a long time. Although my memory isn't
what it used to be, I remember you well. One of the things
that sticks out is the city league basketball. You played
on the Takilma team...can't remember the team name..and
we were the sucker creek allstars, a combination of me and
my brothers along with the White school house folks.
( Charlie Mcdonald, Allen Johnson, Jim Nelson )
I remember you also Umped softball, and when me and patrick
were in highschool he was in one of your classes.....
by the way, I'm Jimmy Eaton, although I go by Mij to most
folks....
peace.



From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     1/8/2004     6:38 A.M.

Ruth and Jeff

Serene, Jeff, Bo



From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     1/8/2004     6:40 A.M.

So what should I do with these photos...
Add to Takilma page?
Link from Guestbook entry?
Create a history page?




From:     jim     1/8/104     8:48 A.M.

ted, make an html next link, album of sr and friends from
when then & now with info



From:     jim     1/8/2004     2:41 P.M.

or history page



From:     Ted     1/8/2004     8:45 P.M.
http://www.rockefellercenter.com/viewer/viewer.html

The Christmas tree is gone!



From:     Ted     1/8/2004     8:57 P.M.
http://www.thegoldenyears.org/jack_albertson.jpg

Hey, someone at work today said I look like Jack Albertson



From:     Ted (Forewarded by Barbara B)     1/9/2004     6:01 A.M.

With Washington insiders yelping out reasons why your campaign can't win, and with pundits trotting out failed candidacies of the past in order to make facile comparisons, we thought it instructive to dust off the history books and look at a landslide election that might be particularly relevant this year. While a few commentators have dared to compare George W. Bush to Herbert Hoover - the only other modern president to preside over a net loss in jobs - the potential similarities between the 1932 and 2004 election are much deeper than that.

Elected in 1928, Herbert Hoover capped a three-decade reign in which the GOP won seven of nine presidential elections. Hoover inherited one of the biggest economic booms of American history. But the boom was misleading - despite a skyrocketing stock market, the gap between rich and poor was widening, and when the bubble burst in 1929, Hoover found himself presiding over the country's worst depression ever. After a decade in which the policies of Presidents Harding and Coolidge heavily favored their cronies in big business, there was no safety net to support a nation suddenly unable to make ends meet.

Hoover's undoing - and the undoing of the long era of Republican rule - was his inability to respond to the economic needs of millions who had lost jobs and wages. He took a hard ideological stand that the market would fix itself, and that government should not interfere. Though Hoover was widely considered to be a good and decent man, his rigid ideology prevented him from finding solutions to the problems of most Americans.

And thus the stage was set in 1932 when a brash and charming northern governor won the Democratic nomination for president. Franklin Delano Roosevelt promised to use government to unite Americans and to advance social and economic justice. His message resounded across the country, and Roosevelt swept into the White House in a landslide, winning 472 electoral votes to Hoover's 59, and bringing with him large pickups in the House and Senate.

FDR's 1932 victory was just the beginning. By energizing the Democratic Party, he launched an era of progress and common purpose. Between 1932 and 1968, Democrats won six of eight presidential elections and were strong in both houses of Congress. During this era, the United States achieved great social progress - the New Deal, Social Security, Medicare, labor legislation, and civil rights laws - and established itself as a powerful moral leader in the world by defeating fascism. After the war, we helped Japan and Europe to rebuild and founded an international order based on the rule of law. It was American resolve, rooted in the rule of law, that laid the groundwork for the implosion of communism and the triumph of freedom.

Since 1968, the Republican Party has won six of nine presidential elections. Now with their control of the House and Senate, they are intent on rolling back decades of progress to the era of Hoover. But history has proven that the American people can unite to reverse this country's direction. It happened in 1932, and you can make it happen in 2004.

FDR's 1932 inaugural address is one of the great documents of our democracy. Read it now, or better yet, listen to the actual recording:

http://www.hpol.org/fdr/inaug/

And when you hear talk of the possibility of a landslide in 2004 - jump right in. Tell your friends that, yes, it's possible. First you have to look at history, and secondly, you gotta believe.

Forward this email to everyone in your address book, and ask them to join your campaign at:

http://www.deanforamerica.com/join

Let's see how many Americans will join the landslide. The pundits' role is to doubt - but we have the power to believe.

Mark Sundeen
Webteam
Dean for America

Learn more at the official Dean blog:
http://blogforamerica.com/

Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/revolution






From:     Rita E     1/9/2004     6:25 A.M.

Sorry Ted--no aspersions to Jack Anderson
but you are by far much handsomer!!!!!
TAKE A POLL





From:     Rita E.     1/9/2004     7:22 A.M.

I mean Jack Albertson.....



From:     Mij     1/9/2004     7:30 A.M.

Ted, I sent you an E-mail of the "new" Michael Jackson...

( hope you already had breakfast! )



From:     SIG     1/16/2004     8:21 A.M.

Mighty quiet around here. Hold on...
George Bush is great!
Jesus saves!
Marijuana should stay illegal!



From:     Mij     1/16/2004     4:57 P.M.

Jesus saves!...............(she shop's at wal-mart )

Jesus saves!...............( by buying illegal marijuana
in bulk )

Jesus saves!...............( stupid George Bush quotes so
she can make a huge book....of stupid George Bush quotes )





From:     suez     1/16/2004     7:48 P.M.

Sig and Mij. Very entertaining. Thanks



From:     Mij     1/17/2004     5:06 P.M.

ODOR IN THE COURT!

I object!....and so will you to these true tales from the
courtroom:

A Norwegian man who admitted to police that he was driving
while drunk was acquitted......because he was drunk when he
made the confession.

A Kansas city, Kan., judge granted Wesley Fitzpatrick a
temporary restraining order against a woman who he said was
stalking him ( making him "scared, depressed, and in fear
for my freedom" ). The order was rescinded when the judge
found out that the "stalker" was actually Fitzpatrick's
parole officer.

READY, SET, SUE!
In St Louis, a woman sued her hair salon for a bad hairdo
and won $7,000.

A Bulgarian woman sued her heating company, claiming it was
too cold in her apartment to have "good sex".

An Indiana man sued a Ft. Wayne strip club after claiming
that pole dancers "fell on his genitals".

some U.S civil court cases taken from the files of the
American Bar Association:

-Schnuck v. Dumm
-Gerald mayo v. Satan and his staff
-State v. Big Hair
-Henny Penny v. Chicken Little
-Advance Whip & Novelty Co. v. Benevolent Protective Order
of Elks. ( say that three times!....)
-Fried v. Rice
-People v. Fester
-Jones v. God, Jesus, others
-Hamburger v. Fry
-People v. Booger
-United States of America v. 2,116 boxes of boned beef,
weighing approximately 154,121 pounds, and 541 boxes of
offal, weighing approximately 17,732 pounds

that was offal!

peace.




From:     The Corrector     1/18/2004     7:14 A.M.

that first one was "Schmuck v. Dumm"....




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     1/18/2004     8:05 A.M.
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipperton_Island

the above link was emailed to me.
THE PERFECT PLACE FOR A COMMUNE



From:     Ted     1/18/2004     4:07 P.M.

New History Page:
TAKILMA



From:     Mij     1/20/2004     3:53 P.M.

I would just like to say that Peter's passing has left an
empty space in my heart. He was a big part of us coming up
here to oregon, and he was and always will be a part of our
family. Although we haven't seen him in many years, we'll
miss him dearly. I hope you have a peaceful trip Peter, and
may you find that perfect commune in the sky,

love,
The Eatons.



From:     Ted     1/21/2004     6:17 A.M.

Tribute



From:     stan     1/22/2004     6:48 P.M.

What happened? I just communcated with Peter a few weeks ago



From:     Mij     1/24/2004     5:24 P.M.

Sometimes some inane trivial information helps take the mind
off the more serious issues of the sadder side of reality...


a Crete, Neb man scratched a million dollar ticket from a
local burger king contest, but when he got home three hours
later he realized the stub had fallen out of his pocket, so
he coolly returned to the store, retraced his steps and
found the million dollar stub still lying on the floor in the checkout line.

In Braintree, Mass, the city purchased a new $650,000 fire
truck....then discovered it was to big to fit into the
town's fire station.( They must fight a lot of marijuana
fires...)

Two Floridians have filed a $1.1 trillion lawsuit against
Osama bin Laden for "scaring them".

To the screams of hundreds of spectators, a 47 year old man
in Fond du Lac, Wisc, who since 1980 had gone only 8 days
without a Mcdonald's Big Mac, consumed his 18,000th Big Mac
in 29 years. ( the sick part is that he actually knows the
exact number..)

some little known terrorist organizations:
-Weird Al Qaida
-The Talibran...(fighting for regularity)

gotta go, peace to all.





From:     jaf     1/25/2004     4:42 P.M.
mmm">mmm

marsian



From:     jim     1/25/2004     4:47 P.M.

ted....why the sunnyridge double link ? i'm on explorer



From:     Ted     1/25/2004     8:18 P.M.

jim, if you are going to use the box above to add a link...just put the URL in it...NOT THE TAGS ()



From:     stan     stan22@ekno.com     1/26/2004     6:20 P.M.

Is there something secret, difficult, weird about Peter's death?



From:     jim     1/26/104     12:27 P.M.

stan...nothing weird about peter, he had a heart attack there was much
damage in his brain, and he did not recover....this was about all the
details i recieved....



From:     alice     1/26/2004     5:22 P.M.

Jim - that's about it.

Leah, Nina, Miriam and Melina were all together in the SF area after the attack and were able to be with Peter until he died, and Elizabeth went to spend some time with them afterwards. She said they were doing well, or at least as well as could be expected.


Leah, Nina, Melina and Miriam - I hope you don't mind me speaking on your behalf, and I do hope you're well. It was such a shock and I feel so much for you. I wish I were well enough to have traveled to the service, but my doctor advised against it. Hugs to you all.



From:     Ted     1/26/2004     8:46 P.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     Ted     1/26/2004     8:47 P.M.

My granddaughter got in the papers:
Mona Lisa Smile



From:     Mij     1/27/2004     7:10 A.M.

Leah, Nina, Melina, and Miriam...

You know we all share Alice's thoughts and feelings. Some
words printed on a page will not do justice to your father
and how he touched the lives of others, my family included.
If it were possible, we would all have been there to send
him off to the next stage of his journey....

It's at these times we reflect back...kinda take stock in
what was and what will be. I myself think about those days
back then when we were little hippie kids running around.
We never hung around alot together...you guys ( Leah and
Nina ) being little girls and I and my brother ( Patrick )
being punk boys. I do believe I had a crush on you Leah, but
please don't hold that against me! I remember me and my
friend Marc Bottenstein ( he lived right there on Browntown
road, the one that goes by the Holland store )would talk
about you girls and whether or not "you liked us"....

It's strange trying to remember when we went from those
hippie kids to.....not being those hippie kids. What I mean
is, I can't place when that changed. It was just the passage
of time of course, but there is no clear cut memory of when
that was and when it wasn't. Life took us on our own paths
and we just naturally drifted apart and went on to do our
own things, but I'm glad we are able to share some memories
together. When you think about it, we kids had a truly
unique childhood, one that not many kids got to experience.
Once again I thank your father for that opportunity. I wish
you all the very best, and hope life shines it's magic on
you and yours forever....

Peace.




From:     stan     1/29/2004     6:42 P.M.

Sunnyridge still seems so fresh and so it's hard to think of Peter, so young, dying.
He was a large part of the glue that held SR together. He kept the place functioning, but got frustrated with the likes of me whose do your thing, thing meant being lazy and watching people like him work. I remember him coming by early one morning trying to wake up us lazy stoners for a wood run.
I didn't mean to be a slacker, I was just too freaked by life, and had mountains of weird shit to work out. In spite of everything do your thing actually kinda worked.
Later on working at the recycling company I became the Peter pushing all to work for the good of work.
I'm looking forward to seeing him up there, whenever, (but I hope not too soon).



From:     mij     1/29/2004     4:37 P.M.

"Look, up there in the sky".
"It's a bird",
"It's a plane",
"No!....It's STUPORMAN"!

It's stories like this that make guys like me look
absolutely Einsteinian....

In rural Carbon County, PA, a group of men were drinking
beer and shooting guns ( theres a good combo! ) from the
rear deck of a home owned by Irving Michaels, age 27. The
men were firing at a raccoon who was passing by ( the
f---ing nerve of that little bastard! ) but the beer had
apparently impaired their aim, because despite the 40+
rounds which they fired at him, the raccoon escaped into a
3ft diameter drainage pipe some 100 ft away from Mr.
Michaels deck.
Determined to kill the animal, Mr. Michaels retrieved a can
of gasoline and poured some down the pipe, ( I bet you can't
see where this is going! ) intending to smoke the "critter"
out. After several unsuccessful attempts to ignite the fuel,
Michaels emptied the entire 5 gallon fuel can down the pipe
and tried to ignite it again, to no avail. Not one to admit
defeat by wildlife, the determined Mr. Michaels proceeded to
slide feet-first 15 ft down the sloping pipe to toss the
match.
The subsequent rapidly expanding fireball propelled Mr.
Michaels back the way he had come, though be it at a much
higher rate of speed. He exited the angle pipe "like a
polaris missile leaves a submarine" said witness Joseph
Mcfadden, 31.
Mr. Michaels was launched directly over his own home, right
over the heads of his astonished friends, onto his front
lawn. In all, he traveled over 200ft in the air.
he suffered only minor injuries.( DAMN! )
no word on how rocky faired.

later.




From:     Ted     1/31/2004     7:29 A.M.
http://www.geocities.jp/tokuworks/index2.html

Click on the pages at the bottom of the above page for some great Flash artwork.



From:     Leah     1/31/104     8:58 P.M.

thanks to all for your condolences and to Ted for the pages. We
appreciate your thoughts
and prayers. may his memory be a blessing.



From:     Mij     2/3/2004     7:19 A.M.

It's currently 7:44 in the AM, the temperature is about 40
degrees, a light wind from the SSW at about 5 MPH. The skies
are mostly cloudy with patchy fog....
The forecast calls for continued war with steady casualties
and useless loss of life today, and an increase in the smoke
being blown up the public's asses. The chances for
measureable misinterpretation by the public remains high at
about 70% today, decreasing finally after the election.
The radar currently shows a wide band of evil stretching
from Washington to Great Britain, with some areas of severe
dunderheadstorms over Washington and the south. Expect more
of the same through the forecast period, followed by a bad
economy, joblessness, and completly depleted natural
resources. for more information, tune to your local biased
news.....






From:     Mij     2/3/2004     8:48 A.M.

Gees Mij, lighten up!......or light up, either one.



From:     Ted     2/3/2004     5:44 P.M.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha



From:     stan     2/11/2004     3:26 P.M.

Is everybody sleeping? I'll send jokes tomorrow.



From:     jim     2/11/104     11:17 A.M.

not sleeping, just resting...not much to write these days....i'm in
transition and wondering what will happen next in my existance on this
planet



From:     Mij     2/11/2004     4:50 P.M.

We are now slowly moving out of winter, gradually edging
towards the comfortable feeling of spring, that peace deep
within us that yearns for the awakening of it's soul...
seeking that space which screams out for the adventure of
living and the satisfaction of love....
We embrace these new horizons in our minds eye, eagerly
awaiting all that we have not discovered, yet hesitant at
what we may find....knowing this is our privelged time
to ride the great wheel of life....while we learn to
embrace the inevitableness of our passing...




From:     Ted     2/12/2004     6:38 A.M.

Valentine Puzzle



From:     Mij     2/12/2004     7:03 A.M.

That was a cool puzzle ted, although frustrating trying to
align them just right, but I finally got the picture of the
ostrich together....



From:     eugene     2/13/104     1:20 A.M.

OK... TOO DAMN QUIET HERE... so for all you bush lovers...
here is why we detest the man with the domestic policy of
herbert hoover and the foreign policy of napolean (sp?)
--------------------------------------------------------
IT'S ELECTION TIME AGAIN

Just so you know:

I attacked and took over 2 countries.

I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US Treasury.

I shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history
(not easy!).

I set an economic record for the most personal bankruptcies filed
in any 12 month period.

I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the
stock market.

I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days
on vacation by any president in US history (tough to beat my dad's, but
I did).

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I
presided over the worst security failure in US history.

I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any
president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost
their jobs.

I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than
any other president in US history.

I set the all-time record for most real estate foreclosures in a
12-month period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions
than any president in US history.

I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any
president, since the advent of TV.

I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution
than any other US president in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and
refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the
record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US
history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of
any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US
history. (The poorest multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil
tanker named after her.)

I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of
the Union simultaneously struggle against bankruptcy.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any
market in any country in the history of the world.

I am the first president in US history to order a US attack AND
military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of
the United Nations and the vast majority of the international community.

I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in
the history of the United States, called the "Bureau of Homeland
Security"(only one letter away from BS).

I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending
increases, more than any other president in US history (Ronnie was tough to
beat, but I did it!!).

I am the first president in US history to compel the United
Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.

I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations
remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US
history.

I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. I withdrew from
the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by
default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations
election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.

I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate
campaign donations.

The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one
of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy
frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in
US history.

I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under
attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow
government.

I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11, and in less
than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the
biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the
people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world
peace and stability.

I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded
government contracts.

I set the all-time record for the number of administration
appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations
bidding for gov't contracts.

I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans
than any other president in US history.

I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in
less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight
down.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES: I have at least one conviction for drunk
driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not
available).

I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military
during time of war.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about
drug use. (wink,wink)

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited
away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or
bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I
served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended
regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
review.

With Love,
GEORGE W. BUSH
The White House, Washington, DC

Note: this information should be useful to voters in the 2004
election.

Circulate to as many citizens you think would be helped to be
reminded about
this record.



From:     eugene     2/13/104     1:23 A.M.

frankly i do not see what his appeal is...



From:     Mij     2/13/2004     7:30 A.M.

Thank you Eugene! Sometimes I don't know what to say about
this madman....and put it into words that would sink into
the average american that bush has bent over, greased, and
ready for a governmental reaming that they'll never forget.
every little thing he does, and I mean everything, is an
assault on this country and it's people, and yet he's still
popular.( We don't care about a corrupt, evil, murdering,
thieving, ugly, lying, weasel of a non-man, but a blow job?
THAT WE WON'T STAND FOR!!!!!!!)
I am....a bit sarcastic, I know, but that's the only way
I have to portray how I feel, especially when it comes to
this no good for nothing....well, you know.
Thanks for the FACTS on this man, and I hope we as a nation
will have the common sense at election time to get rid of
the toxic waste that is our current administration, for if
we do not, this country and the world are in for some
serious shit......and that's a good question, what exactly
is the appeal of this non-man? I mean one can create a list
a mile long on his faults, but I can't think of absolutely
one item to put in the plus column.


must be his sunny disposition and intellectual creativity..




From:     eugene     2/13/104     11:08 P.M.

actually he is like a lot of other conservative politicians...
the reason he is in office is because ralph nader pulled
enough votes in the election to throw it to bush... now i have
nothing against nader... but... i would still have rather had
gore as a president than bush... the is a neat phrase i heard
about this... don't know if i posted it...

when you vote... do not sacrafice the good on the alter of
the perfect...

in other words... gore was good but some people voted for
was they saw as the more "perfect" candidate... nader...
and thus we sit here today with the greater of two evils
as our president... and you are right... he is truly awful
and to my mind is intent on completely wrecking the country
with his fiscal policies that are going to bankrupt america
when the baby boomers hit social security age starting in
2010... that is when all these tax cuts hit their full effect
and it is again in my mind done for one reason... political
gain...

anyone trying to fix the problem will have to raise taxes...
and the right can then attack them on that... so we will be
left with the wealthy and everyone else will be shit out
of luck...



From:     jim     2/14/104     9:32 A.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/arewe.html

html



From:     jim     2/14/104     9:50 A.M.
http://www.pacificonline.net/~jaf/embrace.html

to all my loves



From:     Ted     2/14/2004     11:09 A.M.

Oh, thank you jim!



From:     stan     2/15/2004     11:05 A.M.

Eugene, the election was stolen. Without Ralph we wouldn't have understood that such a thing could happen, besides more Florida democrats voted for Bush than voted for Ralph.

And if we do get a Kerry we will discover that however much he's an improvement over the bush (even an ordinary earthworm would be better than bush) he will still take the country and world down the (logistically absurd) road of unlimited growth and eventually cataclysm.
Consider; every one percent of growth in America is equal to the total in Cambodia! Who really needs the money? What actual good comes from america's increased growth?

Kerry gets a lot of his money from media giants, and is as beholden to special interests as anybody, notwithstanding his latter day embrace of populism.
Kerry, in 1997, along with 97 other senators voted against the Kyoto Treaty. Why? because it didn't require the developing world to make any immediate changes. Americans only produce 20 times more greenhouse gases per capita than Indians, but Kerry and the rest thought Kyoto was unfair to the US!!!
Gore's top environmental advisor had just spent the previous decade working for Monsanto, one of the world's sleaziest, least environmetal corporations.
and I could go on and on.
Ill be glad to see Bush go but I have no need to apologize for voting for Ralph and I'll still never happily feel good about voting for a Democrat.




From:     Mij     2/15/2004     6:16 A.M.

All politicians have their own agendas, and usually are
backed by some sort of corporate money, as sure as Michael
Jackson is black. ( bad example! ) Anyway, This current
mal-function for an administration is BAD....100% PURE
UN-"ADULT"ERATED evil.
Now, I'm sure since governments were formed, there have been
bleak outlooks, a feeling that all is going into the shitter
without being wiped, but life and countries have gone on.
You hope for a lesser pile of offal, and try to Roto-Rooter
the bigger piles into the over flowing toilet of right wing
conservative bigotry, thereby keeping what balance is
possible in this never-be-perfect world. Gore, Kerry, etc.
are like leaking dams, it isn't perfect, but it stops the
backed up water of ignorant self-serving rich ME ME ME's
from completely inundating everything in their paths.
You know, we can't change civilization....what I mean is,
are we suppose to go back to the 1700's? all periods in time
have had and will have there own dire situations, from
deadly diseases that wipe out half the population to a
computer age that seems to have it's own self awareness,
limiting the hands on human experience. No matter what, you
do what you think is the best at that time, and hope the
next generation will do the same. Earth abides, and so do
humans, it's the ever changing circle of existance...





From:     Rita E     2/15/2004     10:26 A.M.

Stan, I think you are so utterly wrong
about our political situation. Bush would
not be in power today, if Nader had chose Not
to run. And you people who voted for him, definitely
knew there wasn't a chance of him being elected.
And if you had any 'smarts' at all, you must have
realized it would take away from the democratic vote.
I know you think there isn't any difference between
the two parties, but to me, no way would we be in
this predicament today, regardless of 9/11.
There would still be an ancient city of Baghdad--
There would still be thousands of young teens enjoying
themselves in America, instead of lying dead in a
foreign land for no good reason at all--
not to mention thousands of Iraquis dead, wounded
and homeless in a devastated land--
and here at home, there wouldn't be thousands of
jobless men and women, who are losing their homes
and every state in the union next to bankruptcy--
to me it is so shameful what Bush and his thugs have
done to this country in just three years.
I know alot of Nader voters said 'I have to vote my
conscience'--I wonder what their conscience will tell
them this November.
Peace, Love




From:     jim     2/15/104     1:32 P.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/grampa.html

......here is a photograph that simon, my grandson took of me yesterday,
things are in general getting more and more nutty.....
i think i will drop out , retaining my computer and remote control......and
move into the woods.....



From:     stan     2/16/2004     3:40 P.M.

Rita, Gore would have been a lot better, but Bush had a lot of people snowed, me included. I thought he would be like he said he was not the raving maniac he turned out to be.
Meanwhile, as a green friend of mine would say, dems or pubs is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as it's going down.
If Dems are successful there'll be even more growth and a faster downhill slide for the world.
Besides GORE WON.



From:     Mij     2/16/2004     7:15 A.M.

If the world is a planetary version of the titanic heading
for the big iceberg of extinction, what exactly would Ralph
had done to stop it?....bought land on mars and started a
new and better civilization? Maybe call captain Kirk for
a ride to Beta 3, open up an espesso stand and laugh and
point at all the fools who stayed on earth?....

I myself will continue to hope, it's what we human's have
done since we were amoebas floating around in sea water, so
why stop now?

PEACE.



From:     llucy     llucy85@hotmail.com     2/16/2004     4:34 P.M.

ahhhhhh...JIM,we are living in the woods hawaii,we sure are official OLD FARTS NOW!! my big DELL got fried by litening storm,no outreach, pute at werk off limits>>>>>littletime to CHAT>>> government brothership>>>

...the passive evil are the 60 %of us that just go along...don't vote, don't create. don't smile...sigh

livingamong thehumansisinterestingWOT?


loves to all..



From:     stan     2/17/2004     4:44 P.M.

Mij,
Ralph would have been better but not good enough either. Everybody worships growth and that's the culprit. Nothing any government is willing to do will stop it... but... not everybody on the Titanic died... so hope reigns.



From:     jim     2/17/2004     10:07 A.M.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamesfrankfort/ocean.html

.....we are the world.....



From:     eugene     2/18/104     10:49 A.M.

stan, other greens, et. al.

i would love to see a world that practiced sustainable growth
or any other term that you like... and i met nader in the
oakland, ca airport on the way back to NM from visiting
friends in SF... and really liked him even though i only had
about 5 minutes to speak with him...

however... the one really big differance between myself 30
years ago and now is that i am more realistic about how the
world IS and how it works... this does not mean i am totally
apathetic about environmental issues etc... but given the
complete sell-out of this administration to destruction in
all forms, environmental, economic, and war etc... how can
anyone have been or could they be worse???

the fact is republicans will ALWAYS be for the interests of
big corporations, rich people and themselves first... this
is not to say that democrats are necessarily less selfish
or more altruistic... it always depends on the individual...
as a matter of fact there are MANY replublicans that i admire
for the statesmanship and character... it is just that this
new rush limbaugh type of republican party is so horrible
that i cannot even think of words to express my disgust with
them...

so i think with democrats we have a better chance for making
things better (in general) than with republicans... but hey
we do need both parties going at each other to get anything
approaching a balance in life... differant opinions and
compromise make at least a livable world even if it is not
perfect...

but who after the age of 30 can believe much in perfection...
it is just not reality... i wish it were... but i have been
too often stomped by the bootheel of reality to have many
illusions about it any longer...

peace, love, happy sailing to all



From:     eugene     2/18/104     11:01 A.M.

llucy...

sorry to hear about your computer dying... we have lots of
lightening storms here as well and have fried a few of my
chips as well...

hate to tell you to shop at wal-mart (UGHHHHH) but they have
a product that you should check out (you may be able to find
it elsewhere but it may cost quite a bit more)...

it is a UPS battery back up with surge protection (about $40)
from APC - mine is 350 VA/ 200 watts... the thing most people
do not know is that those surge protection strips are not
good enough... they cannot cut out before they jolt gets
through to the computer... but the APC/UPS sends all the
electricity through the battery first... plus a lot of
electronics... and all my lightning jolts since i put it on
have not gotten through... it also has a port to put your
phone line through and hook to you modem because a strike
on the phone lines can kill your modem also... anyway...
hope this is useful information...



From:     Joel     2/18/2004     10:44 A.M.

In general I have a much different perspective on things than Eugene's but I have to applaud the comments he made above suggesting that the two party system is a good one that helps keep each party accountable to the people.
I especially appreciated his acknowledgement that there are MANY Republicans who have earned his respect. Sometimes I think we allow sterotypes and political type-casting to cause us to forget our common humanity. Thanks to Eugene for not falling into that trap.




From:     Mij-potty-mouth     2/19/2004     6:29 A.M.

I usually disagree with anything Republican, just the way
it is. and as for the Democrats not being much better, well
that depends on what you think is better. THE FACT IS, our
current government, Republicans, has this country on a
nosedive to ecologic and economic disaster, not to mention
the complete ruination of health care, social security, and
anything resembling social programs. Oh yeah, let's not
forget that pesky little war that's KILLED HUNDREDS of
Amercicans...you know, the war Georgy boy said was over
6 months ago. ( I can still see him standing on that ship,
all proud with his ignorant face beaming, like he was the reason for the fictituous victory, a complete slap in the
face to those young men and women losing life and limb
thousands of miles from their homes )
He lied about the new jobs, said yesterday that the 2.6
million new jobs projected by the end of this year was
"unrealistic". His whole damn presidency is unrealistic!!

I cant't ( and won't, for that matter ) pretend that all
this shit isn't directly attributed to this REPUBLICAN
regime. THEY'RE in power, THEY are responsible, end of
debate. I'm sick of the war, I'm sick of George, and I'm
sick of this whole fucking G-DUB-lican party!!!!!!!!!!!

PEACE.....( or how about Piece, as in George is a PIECE of
S---! )

any Questions?




From:     Rita E     2/19/2004     9:05 A.M.

The latest remark from Bush--he is
'troubled' about gay marriage--amazing--but
he is not troubled with his lies for getting
us into this devastating war and other lies
that he continually spews, especially his so-called
national guard service. The war is the main
horrible act that he sponsored.
My question to you Joel is--
How can your christian conscience condone
these outright lies???
And the republicans in control of congress?
George should have been on the impeachment
table two years ago.
No, I definitely have no respect for any group
that lets these lies go unanswered and worse than
that, bush continues to LIE practically everyday.
It's truly disgusting.

Peace



From:     Mij     2/19/2004     4:56 P.M.

No matter what you think about the government, the war,
etc., there will always be strange stories, weird people,
and bizzare facts to put it all into focus....

Joey Buttafuoco has opened a hot-dog restaurant in Mexico,
where he sells ashtrays and shot glasses emblazoned with
his image.( Buttafuoco sounds like a real Butthead )

speaking of butts....Turtles breath through their butts to
hibernate through the winter.

Clams have only one foot.

Senility occurs in fruit flies at 20 days of age.

The smallest unit of time is a "yactosecond"....it's
o.ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo1 seconds.( whoever
figured out that one has way to many yactoseconds on their
hands. )

Genghis Khan's last name was "Borjigon".

The average cow belches 35 cubic ft of gas per day.

Half the genes in a banana are the same as in a human.
( half the humans who eat bananas are in jeans.)

Engineers at Ball Aerospace and Technology Corp. are
building a spacecraft to crash into a comet which is
80 million miles from earth.

Scientist at the university of Southern California will soon
begin testing an artificial brain. ( I've been testing mine
for 43 years...)

A group of German scientist have been put together to study,
in depth, the dirt that gathers in pavement cracks.
( why? )

Military Researchers are working on a spray-on, super
slippery gel dubbed, "banana peel in a can". ( maybe we
really are half bananas...)

George Washington spent 10% of his presidential salary on
booze.

"And that my friends, is the rest of the story".




. From:     Barbara B (by Webmaster)     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     2/23/2004     9:33 A.M.

Subj: fun cartoon + the political has never been more personal
Date: 2/21/2004 10:38:50 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: beletsky@hevanet.com
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Sent from the Internet (Details)




http://www.markfiore.com/animation/agenda.html

http://capwiz.com/pfaw/issues/alert/?alertid=5155811 ("Speak Up")
I got this e-appeal to speak up about how I feel personally about the latest news, re the sneaky judge appointment: it doesn't take much to get my blood boiling these days:

Bush Subverts Democracy

How many more ways can the Bush Administration devise to undermine our own democracy? At times it seems even the long-suffering Iraqi people intuit what perhaps 50% of Americans slide by on their way to watch Survivor while eating McDonald's. This administration is blatantly doing its best to subvert our own longstanding Democratic principles. How hypocritical is it to any thinking person that they continuously say one thing and do or mean the opposite? By war I mean peace, are ya with me? Our greatest defense has always been the model we upheld that caused others to want to emulate us. Now our economy, our underlying values, our political system, our standing in the world has been made a house of cards.

They bemoan "activist judges setting policy," while they bypass the process and appoint Fundamentalist Christian activist judges. Is the greatest irony that it was judges who anointed Bush as President while the will of the people was still - at best - in question? Or maybe that Dick Cheney sees no appearance of impropriety at duck hunting with Antonin Scalia just before he's to hear his case? Or is it that US Supreme Court Justice Scalia sees no reason to recuse himself?



It seems to me that drug criminals had to forfeit their ill-gotten gain. Why don't all these robber barons who have profited and profiteered be required to contribute theirs to the needy or the national deficit they wantonly created in their own unbelievable greedy interests? Or maybe just to the individuals and families whose lives they have shattered. The Emperor is naked, just open your eyes.



Barbara Beletsky (Friends don't let friends not VOTE).




From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     2/23/2004     9:40 A.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     eugene     2/23/104     9:22 P.M.

thank god most everyone voted that they vote!!!

to be honest... i would rather you vote for the other guy
than not vote at all... i know how easy it is to be apathetic
but hey... it is all we got to try and change the government

yeh... read that about the judges... at least it is only
good till the end of 2005... and he has done it twice now...
so he only needs to do three more to over ride the veto
that has been happening in the senate... ok... the filibuster
of republican appointees... and yes... it is ok to have
activist judges if they are CHRISTIAN activist judges...
just not ok for the rest of us... huh... how does that work

oh... i forgot... hypocrisy...



From:     Rita E     2/24/2004     6:24 A.M.

TED--May your
birthday be full of love and laughter!





You are a wonderful webmaster--thanks for keeping this
site alive and well. The day is yours--ENJOY!!





From:     Mij     2/24/2004     7:16 A.M.

Sometimes it feels you can't write enough on how miserabe
this man and his SADministration is....really, I have so
much to spew, I need to drink some "BRAINO" to unclog the
festering bush turds backing up my usual toilet of thought.

So I'll spare all of you ( YAAAAAHOOOOO!!!!) and I'll just
say right-on to Barbara and Eugene for their sane, but
tempered, outlook on the whole......mess.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From:     jim     2/24/104     8:23 A.M.

ted, have a great day full of sage ages and web pages...happy birthday !



From:     eugene     2/25/104     1:03 P.M.

ted... like alice in wonderland... celebrate un-birthdays!!!

happy birthday... how does everyone know???

other news... NADER announces his bid for president...
great a repeat of 2000???

not if people think about it!!! well... ok... people mostly
do not think... but what the heck... even if we are bush
whacked again in 2004... he cannot run again after that...
of course the damage will already be done and may perhaps
be irreversable at that point... think GREAT DEPRESSION!!!
that only to 20 years and a world war to get over... but at
least i will be dead by then!!! hooray!!!



From:     Rita     2/25/2004     12:44 P.M.

Hi Everyone--about the candidacy of Ralph Nader--
He might not even get on the ballot, but if he
does, he will be talking about the war and the
lies that led us into this tragic situation--also
about health care, creating jobs, etc. And what I
like is he will be much more vocal than John Kerry
can be. I still think he costs us the election last
time, but I dont think it will be effective this year
YES??????NO?????

Peace--Love



From:     Mij     2/25/2004     5:49 P.M.

All right! there going to use our social security benefits
to help pay for the complete annihilation of our country's
assets, and the incredible deficit which has ensued....

oh well, who needs it anyway. We can just become rich
corporate millionaires and not worry about it.

it'll be a hoot!



From:     Ted     2/25/2004     8:09 P.M.

When your eyes have found the strength
To constantly speak to the world
All that is most dear
To your own
Life,

When your hands, feet, and tongue
Can perform in that rare unison
That comforts this longing earth
With the knowledge

Your soul,
Your soul has been groomed
In His city of love;

And when you can make others laugh
With jokes
That belittle no one
And your words always unite,

Hafiz
Does vote for you.

Hafiz will vote for you to be
The minister of every country in
This universe.

Hafiz does vote for you my dear.
I vote for you
To be
God.
Hafiz


"The Gift" translations by Daniel
Ladinsky, 1999, Penguin Arkana




From:     stan     2/26/2004     4:37 P.M.

Ralph won't impact the election this time, because he'll get an embarrassingly small vote.
He was right to run last time, this one is a pure ego trip. I'm sad for him to see him
get so far out of synch.
Bush is a maniac.
Kerry is a corporate stooge, but a least he has a few functioning brain cells.



From:     Joel     2/26/2004     9:12 A.M.

Anyone seen The Passion of the Christ, yet? Very powerful movie. Believer or not, it is worth seeing. Will make you want to read the Book.




From:     Joel     2/26/2004     11:40 A.M.

http://tvplex.go.com/buenavista/ebertandroeper/today.html
This is the web address for Ebert and Roper's review of The Passion movie. You can paste it into your browser and listen to what they had to say - if you care to.



From:     eugene     2/26/104     5:19 P.M.

as i said i respect nader... but it only takes a few votes in
the 15 or so states that are not "locked" into democratic
or republican wins to upset things... well let us hope...

personally i think a lot of people are REALLY angry with the
current administration and will go out and vote bush OUT...
but hey... who knows... just vote... and if you know someone
that just sits on the fence... CONVINCE THEM TO VOTE!!!

i do not really even care which way they do vote (ok i do)
but i really prefer for people to VOTE!!! because we must
to be citizens in a democracy... even if your candidate
NEVER WINS!!!

which is mostly the case with me... but i still vote!!!
ok... nuf rant...

anyone out there a sailor??? i want to learn to sail...
(yeh... in new mexico)... but i will have to move to some
coast somewhere...




From:     alice     2/26/2004     11:12 P.M.

Barbara said "friends don't let friends not vote". I saw another version of this on a bumper sticker in my friend's teenager's room: Friends don't let friens vote republican.





From:     Mij     2/27/2004     6:31 A.M.

Friends don't let friends drive JUNK..

friends don't let friends listen to PUNK..

friends don't stuff friends in the TRUNK..

friends don't let friends smoke BUNK..

friends don't let friends step in GUNK..

friends don't let friends become a MONK..

friends don't let friends see movies that STUNK..

friends don't let friends drink and CHUNK..

friends don't let friends FLUNK..

friends don't let friends pick up their other friends, walk
over to the edge of the cliff, heave them as far as they
can out over the water, and watch them soar through the air
and then land in the water with a gigantic KERPLUNK!..

did I forget any?

peace.









From:     jim     2/27/104     8:03 A.M.

.......hello alice.....



From:     Rita     2/27/2004     1:13 P.M.

Hi Alice--always so nice hearing
from you. Hope everything goes well
with you.
Love-------Rita



From:     Ted     2/27/2004     9:24 P.M.

Freinds didn't think the Titanic would SUNK



From:     Ted     2/28/2004     2:03 P.M.

Hey, just in time for my trip tomorrow To Atlanta (Training)
My New Driver's License



From:     mij     2/28/2004     2:53 P.M.

good one ted....



From:     jim     3/1/104     5:28 A.M.

one hundred ninety pounds, is that with shoes on ?



From:     Ted     3/1/2004     5:43 P.M.

Ooops, I didn't even check that, jim. I was close to 200 pounds ten or so years ago but more like 175 now. Ah, who cares.
Hello from Atlanta...training for new equipment for my job.




From:     alice     3/1/2004     10:12 P.M.

howdy



From:     Rita E     3/2/2004     4:26 P.M.

Hi Everyone---Howdy Alice---
News item you might be interested in--
The Mayor of New Paltz is charged with
marrying 25 gay couples. And I did laugh
at the next sentence--there were so many
couples wanting to get married so he made
a list, and already 500 couples have signed.
Personally, I don't think it should be
legal or illegal--its a commitment between two
people and the vows they take should be applauded.
This hopefully doesn't open up a religious war,
but I am curious about the reasoning of some people
who are against gay marriage.
Peace--Love--



From:     mij     3/3/2004     4:46 P.M.

if you don't like the idea of gay marriage,
Or of marrying in the traditional way,
Then I'd say you have a big problem,
Unless you find a hetorsexual who's gay

But there is another solution
you can call it a contingency plan
You find yourself a transexual
that way you can marry a woman and a man!








From:     Mij     3/4/2004     6:38 A.M.

...or not.



From:     Mij     3/4/2004     5:02 P.M.

Gay marriage? How about this....

A dutch artist is set to marry herself to show people how
much she loves the "different sides of her character".
Jennifer Hoes ( yep, Hoes is her real name) 29, has ordered
a complete wedding party, wedding dress and marriage
certificate. "I want to celebrate with others how much I'm
in love with myself," she said.

That lady is actually close to playing with a full deck of
cards compared to this nut case...

"Duct and Cover"
After hearing recent terror warnings, a Connecticut man went
out and bought hundreds of feet of plastic sheeting,
battens, boards, staple guns and ladders.....then wrapped
his entire house in plastic.( My guess is he voted for Bush)

In Fairfield, Ohio, motorist Christina L. Willis, 36, who
was finally caught by police following a thirty minute
chase after she hit an officer with her car, still refused
to get out of her car....until she had finished her beer.
( that was hard to swallow..)

In London, a machine operator lost his thumb in a workplace
accident. then, as he tried to demonstrate to his bosses
how the accident happened, he lopped off part of his index
finger.(That guys a real thumbshit!)

A 38 year old Pike Creek Valley, Del., man attempted to
dispose of his gunpowder by, how else, throwing it in the
fireplace.

he survived.

And Finally,
In Sarasota, Fla, a sheriff's deputy drove his patrol car
to a familiar spot beside the highway to watch for
speeders, but his cruiser immediately rolled into a neatly
created hole about 5 feet by 5 feet, which was disguised
by someone who laid palm fronds across it.( hole-y-shit!)

Before I go, a quick thought...
When that lady who married herself goes out for dinner,
who pays?



From:     Ted     3/6/2004     7:53 A.M.

She goes "Dutch" of course.

Can't believe the balls on whoever dug that hole.



From:     Webmeister     3/6/2004     7:57 A.M.

For the few:

Main Entry: dutch
Pronunciation: 'd&ch
Function: adverb
Usage: often capitalized
: with each person paying his or her own way



From:     Mij     3/6/2004     4:05 P.M.

If she gets a divorce, which one of herself gets the
house?

What happens if she gets a job? Which of her stays home
with the kids?

If she wins a cruise for two, can she still bring a guest?

If you leave a message on her/her phone, do you have to
say it twice?

If she plays on your softball team, does she bat twice?

Does she knock before going into the bathroom......in case
she's already using it?

If Mij got lightheaded, would he even be able to tell?





From:     Ted     3/6/2004     8:26 P.M.
http://pilger.com/ted/images/sun3.jpg

Check out this picture of the sun a friend of mine took. He helped build the telescope that took it. The big bump on the right side is what caused the solar flare problems in Novemeber.



From:     Mij     3/7/2004     8:19 A.M.

Awsome picture....and I didn't even have to take acid...



From:     Webmeister     3/7/2004     8:13 P.M.

SUNNYRIDGE POLL



From:     eugene     3/8/104     4:05 P.M.

re: tax refund... no unfortunately i no longer make more than
$50,000 per year... or was it $100,000... cannot remember how
much you need to get one of bush's best baked bean tax refunds

i forget the recipe... let's see... take one enron executive... receive/provide a large campaign contribution... juggle books with an audacious attitude... add a bit of
panache... cook said books again (double-entry bookeeping)
do not worry one wit about prosecution... file for
bankruptcy... and head back to your $50,000,000.00 mansion
in texas... sell your antiques... boo-hoo... poor me...

ken lay we love ya... oh... i forgot... let martha take
the fall...



From:     Ted     3/8/2004     8:47 P.M.

I guess no one has noticed who's living on the "free trial webpage" at virtual commune



From:     Rita E     3/9/2004     6:26 A.M.

Oh my--we do have some clever people on
this chatline--well, he's in the right place.
I expect in a day or so, our vibrations of
GOOD will make Bush start spewing out all the lies
and evil he has committed in just 2 years.
Wishful thinking on my part? Of course.



From:     Mij     3/9/2004     4:49 P.M.

Things you may not have known:

Money is not made out of paper, it is made out of cotton.

The 57 on Heinz ketchup bottles represents the number of
pickle varieties the company once had.

A rat can last longer without water than a camel.

Your stomach has to produce a new layer of mucus every two
weeks or it will digest itself.

The declaration of independence was written on hemp paper.

The dot over the letter "i" is called a tittle.
( The spot on the top of your shirt is called spittle )

If you drop a raisin into a fresh glass of champagne it will
bounce up and down continually from the top to the bottom
of the glass.

A female ferret will die if it goes into heat and cannot
find a mate.
(hmmm..)

A ducks quack doesn't echo. no one knows why.

A Mij Notae can think of weird things. no one knows why.







From:     Ted     3/10/2004     5:25 A.M.

Thanks for all you contribute, mij.
You seem to squeeze my mind and make it lay eggs
of laughter and eggs of wonder.



From:     eugene     3/10/104     2:54 P.M.

ted... your link seems to point to the "web page maker"
not jacko... yeh i found him...

tee hee...
what are you freakin laughin at???



From:     Mij     3/10/2004     4:42 P.M.

I found the rest of "those things you may not have known".

sorry.

A 2x4 is actually 1-1/2" x 3-1/2".

Almost half of Mcdonald's profits come from the sale of
happy meals.

Every person has their own unique tongue print.

The "spot" on 7UP comes from its inventor who had red eyes.
He was an albino. ( by the way, they do not make 7UP
anymore....it's called "sierra mist" )

During the chariot scene in "Ben Hur" a small red car can be
seen in the distance.( maybe it was a mercedes Ben...)

On average, 12 newborns will be given to the wrong parents
daily.
( I new my parents weren't telling me something!!!!! )

John Wilkes Booth's brother once saved the life of Abraham
Lincoln's son.

Daniel Boone detested coonskin caps.

Deep thought #.....10?.....11?.......who the hell knows!
never get into fights with ugly people....they have nothing
to lose.

later.....gator.....s





From:     Ted     3/10/2004     8:20 P.M.

Eugene (and anyone else who can't find the "free guest page" on the virtual commune)

click "see your page" on the web page maker...
and why not try it out for kicks
design a page



From:     Webmaster     3/10/2004     8:30 P.M.

SECURITY WARNING



From:     eugene     3/11/104     7:14 P.M.

GAKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!

ted... shouldn't that read RETRETE... we know how great he
is with grammer and spelling...



From:     Bush     3/12/2004     6:40 A.M.

Ghud one yougene!



From:     Ted     webmaster@sunnyridge.net     3/14/2004     9:45 A.M.

WHAT'S NEW



From:     italian charm bracelets     italiancharms@yahoo.com     3/14/2004     11:53 P.M.

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From:     a truth seeker     3/15/2004     5:06 P.M.

Liberal Bias in the Media
| Main |
The Harvard Crimson Makes the Drudge Report---Twice
»
February 12, 2004
Bush Lied?
A collection of quotes I received in an email from the Harvard Republican Club.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
-Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle,
John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition,
Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others,
December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every
significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he hasrefused to do" Rep. - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003






From:     Rita     3/16/2004     6:19 A.M.

BULL SHIT to truth seeker--
Most of those quotes were five years ago.
That was diplomatic sparring--
Why dont you come out from under your
'bush' and see the Truth.
BUSH DID LIE--that is a proven fact.
He LIED about Iraq having missiles that
he could launch in 45 minutes. He certainly
LIED about Iraq having Weapons of mass destruction.
And he LIED about Iraq being tied to al-Quaida.
And bush is still LYING about that misrepresentation!
Why dont you seek the truth from the United Nations,
whose people were there in Iraq? Those were the
truthful quotes--and that's why 90 percent of the
nations around the world are against us and bushes war.
And doesn't it bother your conscience at all that our
troops are being killed daily to salvage bushes ego?
And doesn't it bother your conscience at all that our
country is going down the drain trying to pay for
bushs arrogance--millions out of work--thousands losing
their homes--states trying to keep much needed programs
from disappearing--how the hell can you condone this
horrible mess bush and his thugs perpetrated on the
American public????????????
He destroyed a country with his 'shock and awe'
that we all should be thoroughly ashamed.
Bush and Powell were the biggest LIARS at
the United Nations--they both should be IMPEACHED!!!!
I am so sick of all of you who try to defend bush.
The man's a LIAR and continues to be one.
He is undefendable.
And so are you truth seeker--the media and the
press are all controlled by corporations--
no such thing as a liberal press--wish there
was--we wouldn't be in this mess!!!!!



From:     jim     3/16/104     8:35 A.M.

...truth seeker....not identifying yourself, a lie



From:     eugene     3/16/104     3:09 P.M.

dear truth seeker...
you need to do a little research about what the UN weapons
inspectors found... documented and destroyed in iraq up until
the time they were removed... there was very little discrepency
between the created WMD, the used WMD, the destroyed WMD and
what could not be accounted for...

also you need to read a little about what the CIA, NSA, DIA,
et. al. said about potential WMD and/or existing "known" WMD
in iraq... all of it the exact opposite of what bush etc.
said leading up to the war...

also... the plan for the war had been in the works since
about 1991-92... white papers about it were worked up by
wolfowitz, cheney (i think), rumsfeld, etc... and also there
are white papers documenting the need to gain a secure hold
on the oil in the region... i am not certain of the dates
on those papers...

by the way what liberal bias in the media... this is a
fiction promulgated by the right... i am a liberal and i
do not see much if anything at all that i consider liberal
reporting... just the opposite in fact... i do not see any
hardball questions asked of anyone in the administration...

one of the great ironies of life: as the working classes
and middle class are destroyed by the right wing leisure
classes... the owners of capital... they flock to the
republican party under the banner of "family values" and
moral political correctness... and a culture war where the
political liberals and progressives are labeled "elitest"

who are more elite than the moneyed classes??? private
schools, yachts, mansions, guaranteed cushy life because
of connections... stock options, access to the levers of
power... geez... our current president couldn't even make
it when he had his own oil company... ok... he didn't pay
for it himself... his dad's friends did... but heck he
still failed at it... of course he sold his stock a few
weeks or months before it went belly up (insider info) and
made his first million... but heck... what else is having
connections for... poor martha... she must be registered
democrat!!!

nothing like loving the thief that steals food from the
table... oh well... another 30 years and it will turn
around again... maybe...



From:     Mij     3/17/2004     7:28 A.M.

Truth seeker, you should get another hobby, because
apparently seeking the truth isn't working out so well.

Maybe start out small, like trying to find the Loch ness
monster...or maybe the fountain of youth, etc., then move
on to something a little tougher, like seeking truth in this
administration.

Bring a lunch, cause it will take awhile. Good luck.





From:     Mij     3/18/2004     7:13 A.M.

-Win an election without the votes.
-Lie about WMD.
-invade and blow up a country, killing thousands, leveling
and razing everything in sight.
-Declare the war over on a navy destroyer with a stupid shit
eating grin while lying about and evading his own non-
military experience.
-Cut and abolish everthing from health care, unemployment
benefits, housing, social security, enviromental programs,
etc., all the things that thousands of americans died for
in the past to make this country something to "fight for".
-Tell the puplic that the war is still over, it's just that
Iraqui's and Americans are still dying....everday, all day,
all night.........but, let's not forget, the war is over.
-Keep the have's having, and the have-not's working and
giving everthing they work for to the haves, cause they
always can use more.
-Drill the Alaskan wilderness, log and burn the rain
forests, strip mine, whatever you can think of to ruin and
demolish what little is left of our once undiscribable
beautiful planet. ( and remember, do it all so the haves
can get more.....MORE, MORE, MORE!!!!!! )
Use the tragedy of 911 to keep perpetrating these assaults
against man and earth, cause the puplic laps it up and
believes everthing through ignorance and fear.
-Get re-elected, call it a day.







From:     Ted     3/18/2004     8:02 P.M.

Saw a couple cool bumper stickers today.

Join the Army! Visit foreign lands and exotic countries. Meet unique peoples and kill them.

An Eye for and Eye and the whole world is blind.



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