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Question 7
Give an example of an
incident typical of SR.
michelle
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POSTED May 25, 2000 |
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after clem died i went to newyork, washington dc, portland, newport, lewisville arkansas, potsdam and parishville newyork, cottonwood arizona, port huron michigan, st. agatha ontario, kitchener waterloo ontario, mississauga ontario and then when i was 19 i went to arizona to be with rachel. and then i moved back to oregon. and i've been here ever since.
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Joel Schubert
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POSTED Jun 27, 2000 |
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A month or so ago Peter asked me two questions: what did I like about SR that made me stay two years, and what about SR made me fertile soil for Jesus?
The first is easy to answer. I liked the "family", the acceptance I received, the beautiful surroundings, the natural life style, living simply, the sense of being part of something bigger than myself and something that was a positive alternative to the society we had come out of, and more.
I'm not sure how to answer the second question. In a way you could say that everything in my life, including SR prepared me for Jesus but only in the sense that I finally came to the end of my rope, so to speak, and realized that I needed God, that I needed to be forgiven, and that I needed God's love and peace in my life. I did not come to Jesus as anything other than a repentant sinner in need of God's grace. For years I had dabbled in religion, mysticism, philosophy, spirituality etc. but when I came to Christ it was out of a sense of emptiness and need, not as one who had attained a profound understanding or level of consicousness.
For years I had heard that God loved me and that Jesus died for my sins but I rejected that as too narrow. I believed that there were many ways to God and that I could find God through my own efforts. That proved to be untrue. Depite all my efforts to the contrary I did not find God. I found a lifestyle, a philosophy, but I did not have God in my heart and soul.
When I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior, it was not because I understood all the theology involved, it was like the prodigal son, coming home, knowing he did not deserve to be treated like a son, but finding that his father had never stopped loving him and had been waiting for his return. It didn't matter to the father what his son had been in to or had done. It only mattered that he had come home.
That's the way it was for me then and even after 28 years it hasn't changed. In fact I am more aware than ever that it is only by God's grace and love that I am where I am. The Bible tells us that God loves us so much that He was willing to become a man and take the punishment for our sins on Himself. He did this to satisfy the justice of God but also to fulfill and express His love and mercy. It would be something like a judge finding a defendant guilty and then saying that he would serve the prison term for him.
Well I hope you will forgive me for going on so but it is a very significant thing for me, obviously and I just don't know how to say it in 50 words or less.
If anyone reading this is interested in discussing any of this further please do not hesitate to contact me. My email is jschubert@hiu.edu.
I'd also like to recommend a book to anyone who has serious intellectual questions about the bible or about the claims it makes about Jesus Christ. It is called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. He was an award winning journalist reporter for the Chicago Tribune who did extensive research on this subject and the book is fascinating and challenging.
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SIG
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POSTED Jul 4, 2000 |
Greta
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POSTED Oct 28, 2000 |
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I remember a time when a commune from a little north of Cave Junction came to visit SR. Can't remember their name but they maybe lived near Jump Off Joe Creek,maybe an hours drive away. The woman who started the commune was a Radcliffe College graduate . She was big and blond and beautiful and powerful with a baby or two. A few years later LIfe mag. published a picture story or her commune because her father was in publishing and was rich. But she was a great lady (sic). That was the time before "woman." I also remember Larry and Peter and some others on the roof of the big shed roofing and Peter said, "can't get a thing done in Oregon if you don't work in the rain." I have used that saying in all sorts of situations.
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Peter
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AN EXAMPLE TYPICAL OF SR.
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POSTED Mar 15, 2001 |
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THE WOODRUN Without firewood Sunnyridge could not have functioned. The cook stove in the kitchen, the stove in the laundry room, the stove in the Sauna, the heating stoves in the various dwellings were all wood fired. One winter we had more than 10 stoves going. Thus, since firewood was such a basic need its acquisition was a major concern of those of us who like myself (a double Capricorn) had the physical plane survival of self and family foremost on their mind. Providing wood for all the stoves required not only the working together of many people, but also the marshaling of resources such as vehicles, tools, and a place to store the wood. The woodrun was one of the basics of communal life: it benefited the whole and had to be supported by the whole. Even though not all people went on woodruns the whole Commune had to support them. There was lot involved. Some of us, who knew we would be around in winter, when firewood would be even more needed and harder to get than at any other time, made efforts to motivate folks to get large quantities of it in the Spring and Summer. This was not always easy to do, nor were those efforts appreciated. There was so much at stake, the need was so fundamental, that under the physical plane there were deep things going on having to do with the relationship between the men (women did not get involved or go on wood runs until quite late in my experience at SR). There were tensions related to the allocation of resources, the handling of tools, the feelings of inferiority or superiority engendered by questions concerning the division of labor (who drives? Who cuts? Who loads? Who holds? Who decides where we go to find wood today?). There was exhileration at seeing the firewood pile up in the woodshed, the oak, the fir, the Madrone all in more or less neat piles. When SR first “opened” it was September (see my previous writing on When I first came to SR.) and the only wood required was for the kitchen stove and the living room, and shortly after for the Sauna (formerly clothes closet, subsequently part of Ted&Ellen Sue’s place.). At this time we did not own a chainsaw and wood was gathered by going out in Larry & Barbara’s VW bus or in the Fleshmobile, a flesh colored Chevy Crummie. Using swedish saws that worked quite well we cut 6 to 8 foot pieces of madrone or oak or branches of Fir tree, usually not more than 8 inches in diameter, loaded as many as possible in the vehicle and brought them back to SR. There, in the vicinity of what became the “Lodge” we had a 14 to 20 inch (maybe larger) stationary saw blade mounted on “trailer” with a movable platform that allowed the lengths of wood we had collected to be fed into the spinning saw blade. Power for the spinning blade was provided by a gasoline motor that was connected by something like a fan belt to a shaft to which the blade was affixed. This contraption was given to us on loan by Mr. Ed (a chapter himself). Of course, to start the engine one had to pull a cord, similar to a lawn mower, and pull and pull and pull… some were more skillful at getting the thing started than others and it was quite a gas to feed the wood onto this movable platform, push it just so far and then push the platform forward into the spinning blade while one of the guys held on to the end that was cut off and passed it off to someone else who would stack it. We did it like this for a few months, occasionally getting a load of wood from Delbert who at that time was in the firewood business. I do not remember exactly what month it was, but we got snowed in and this system became impracticable and since by now we had, 4 or 5 stoves to keep going, a chainsaw was carried up three miles in the snow. Maybe Logan was the hero, I do not remember for sure, but certainly the chainsaw was a major event. It signaled a passage from a more primitive method to a more modern one that was definitely noticed and possibly mourned by more than one of us. There is no question, it made life easier. Still using the same vehicles, later replaced by the red Chevy pick up and later still by the Beast (late 40s or early 50s Dodge yellow flat bed truck with homemade log sideboards) we now cut the wood into stove length pieces in the woods and stacked it in the vehicle and upon unloading took the biscuits directly into the wood shed now located behind the root cellar and behind the old kitchen. Of course, this is schematic and a mere outline. On the human level the process often went like this- I was one of the earlier risers and after Jimmy came he joined me and often Rita Downs in preparing breakfast for the kiddies and others who began to stagger into the kitchen where, by this time, coffee and, usually oatmeal, was ready. Then the process of gathering the crew for the woodrun would begin. More often than not, at least for the first couple or three years, it is my memory that I was the driving force behind this effort. I would go around the “courtyard”, sometime waking people up and ask them to come on the woodrun. The answer was not always positive. Larry and I were pretty much always available, but it was good to have a couple of other people along mostly for loading and for general pushing and pulling that would need to be done to place the log in position for cutting. Larry and I generally hogged the driving and the chainsaw. He would cut and I would hold the piece that came off the saw or viceversa. Of course, others got to use the saw—I will never forget the beautiful figure and grace of the man (can’t remember the name now) who was a fugitive from justice for having blown up some US govt. building in Michigan. He had worked in a Florida swamp cutting cypress and had a lot of experience with chainsaws. When he came on a couple of wood runs he got to handle the saw and it was truly poetry in motion…I remember some others too… and some who whenever they touched the equipment it somehow managed to get broken… It was an almost daily event, and as time went by we had to venture further and further away from the driveway and when arrived at a likely spot, further from the road and vehicle so that the biscuits had to be carried a longer distance to the vehicle. Part of the equipment was a long steel bar used to wedge and lever the logs into cutting position, another useful tool was a pole inserted into a pointed metal contraption from which hung a hook that was used to roll the logs and move them into position for cutting. It was important to keep the saw from binding and the chain from braking. When, on occasion, the chain was broken, or the saw wouldn’t start it was crisis time and the saw had to be taken to town for repairs. That was bad as it required money and the time the saw was in the shop was a time when we couldn’t go out and get wood, thus depleting the store of wood. Upon returning to the top of the driveway the call was traditionally—MANPOWER- shouted out in a loud cry. The word would reverberate through all of SR and people would come to the vehicle and help to unload and stack the wood in the shed. It was not uncommon to have as many as eight or ten people help in this part of the operation. It was the culmination of the woodrun, it signaled that lunch would soon follow, that we would be warm for another few days, that we had shared another experience together, that we had solved some problems together, that we had provided a necessity for the community, that the spirit of cooperation was alive. It was one of the ties that bound us together. I am glad to have been on many, many wodruns…
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jim
Posted: 12/31/2002
7:33 A.M.
.....august and jamal, at the kerosene drum tap.....and driving the
beast into the wood shed, using the starter.....
a white horse galloping through the courtyard in the moonlight.....
a truck getting stuck in the mud, another truck getting stuck while
helping and so on until everything got stuck.....
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TYPICAL OF SR
Ted
Posted: 12/31/2002
7:07 P.M.
Whoa...more about the white horse, jim...please
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Rita E
Posted: 12/31/2002
8:30 P.M.
YES,JIM--please,please
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Ted (for james frankfort)
Posted: 3/10/2003
7:13 A.M.
THE WHITE HORSE SEQUEL
(copied from a LIVE CHAT on 3/9/2003)
The white horse belonged to this guy mack, i believe that was his name, and his wife, they lived beyond us, and drove a red pick up with camper.
One night the horse ran away, and ended up in the court yard...there could of been a full moon that night...the horse was white and quite surealistic against the dark sky bathed in moonlight.
We caught it and they came down to get it...
also once upon another time, the horse got his leg caught in a hole on a plank on a wooden bridge...larry was involved with that one and they had to shoot the horse or something like that...
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PETER
Posted: 3/11/2003
11:31 P.M.
tHERE'S LOTS TO WRITE ABOUT mACK AND THE HORSE. oNE TIME, MAYBE EVEN THE TIME THAT jIMMY DESCRIBES THEHORSE WAS TIED UP TO THE POST OF THE PORCH OF THE OLD kITCHEN AND SOME IDIOT TRIED TO FEED IT COMMODITIES CORNED BEEF. yES THE HORSE WOUND UP BEING BURIED IN THE CREEKBED UNDER SOME BOULDERS AND LOTS OF EARTH AND GRAVEL.(NOT BECAUSE OF THE CORNED BEEF) MACK WAS QUITE A BIT OLDER THAN WE WERE AND HAD AN ATTRACTIVE AND YOUNGISH "WIFE". THEY LIVED IN A CABIN BEYOND BROWNTOWN, THUS WERE EVEN FURTHER OUT THAN SUNNYRIDGE.
From: Ted 8/21/2007 6:20 P.M.
Karma I guess.
It all started with the rumor that we were going to have a break from rice and beet greens and have spaghetti! In order to swing it we had to skimp a bit on other commodities. So, we ran out of coffee and being an addict I developed a splitting headache by the end of the day. It was so bad I actually had to pass on dinner, my favorite meal in the whole world.
Karma I guess.
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